Has there been an influx of TRAs to Mumsnet recently?

[ByTheRiverside]

I'm a long time reader. Only recently started to participate.

I very rarely saw any TRAs on here over the years. But in the past few weeks, I've noticed a lot of them coming here.

You can generally tell by the absolute shite coming out of their mouths, such as being avid apologists for sex offenders.

What's their deal with coming here? Are they saying that their 'womanhood' is reliant on us conforming to their belief, so they're trying to get us to agree with them? If that's so, then welcome!!! You're going to have to get used to reality real quick if you stick around.

Has anyone else noticed this, or just me?

There is a proven trajectory over UK, US, Canada and New Zealand. Per capita, transwomen sexually offend higher than other males. This is a proven fact over at least 4 countries. These are prison statistics. And I remind you that programmes regarding Domestic Violence, drugs and other issues are based on these same prison statistics. So cut the crap.

This is not about 'trans pEopLe'. This is about MALE vs FEMALE. The fact that trans men - females, don't have the same sexual offending rates proves this.

Oh come on. Just wanting to pee. If they genuinely 'just wanted to pee' they would go into the male space. The fact that women sometimes cut the queue and use the mens without incident proves there is no safety risk and it never, ever, ever, ever was about safety or 'just wanting to pee'. It never was about 'just wanting to pee'. You now it. I know it. The readers on this thread knows it. Let us all be honest here and cut the bs. You can defend trans people without lying about the reality. 'Just trying to pee'....

Then that's good. I'm glad for that. And your child should have the same rights as everyone else does, no more, no less.

This is my DD to a tee (although graduated last year). Ticks every box.

Except it's it's not "bullshit" and you know it. Because the trajectory is the same over at least 4 countries, not just the UK.

It's not about "cis" men. It's about MALES. Transwomen are male. They sexually offend the same, indeed 5 times higher. The fact that transmen do not sexually offend anywhere remotely near as much as transwomen proves this is male vs female and transwomen are male and have male sexual offending patterns.

Males are 50%, they are not a minority. No matter how many times you take 1% of males, stick a label on them as trans, and think that makes them a minority. It does not. They're just....male.

I was being mildly sarcastic in response to a post that I interpreted as trying to play down the significance of the prison stats on trans identified male sex offenders, that ultimately concluded they offend at double the rate of the rest of the male population.
It is absurd to accuse me of being facetious about rape and sex crimes.

Fucked up the quote - previous post was replying to RedToothBrush.

Excellent information, thank you for sharing...

Goes to show when they say "What do you have to be afraid of they're more like women than men"

Actually, we should be more afraid of them than we are other men.

If we keep it to the statistics then we'd be better off putting non trans identifying men into women's prisons.

Maybe that can be the next TRA strategy? "Non-trans males are far less dangerous than trans identifying males. Please let just them in so maybe one day we'll be allowed, too."

It is always worth posting evidence for the lurkers. However, those who are entrenched in gender ideology will not be swayed by evidence. Human nature is a funny thing, and some people will double down when presented with evidence, rather than critically analyse their beliefs.

This original post makes it sound like this isn't a public forum for those who want to discuss sex and gender. As a TRA, I am the public and have a right to post and read a board in which I have an interest. GCs don't own Mumsnet.

Not at all. The OP only remarks on the apparent sudden increase in a certain type of posters. At no point does it say that those posters are not welcome. By all means, read and post!

Of course. And I have the right to wonder what your motivations are in prioritising men's wants over women's safety, and judge you accordingly.

Go on then...

You certainly do. Let's hear it.

I’d love to debate with you. What’s your solution to preserving women’s sex based rights!

thanks so much!

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I think we're scaring them...

So many of them turn up, make one holier than thou ridiculous post, and then vanish in a puff of smoke. As when presented with logic and fairness, not to mention the law, they have no coherent argument.

I can sort of understand. It's a bit like walking into the sea anywhere in Britain on a day when it's 35C and sunny, thinking you'll just have a quick swim, and finding out that your knees are frozen before you're halfway in! Not quite the experience you thought you'd have or were even looking for!