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Dieting is horrendous

133 replies

SassyLemonFish · Today 07:59

Just looking for sympathy really.

I’ve a bmi of 28. I need to lose a lot of weight. For the last two weeks I’ve been good but MY GOD the hunger and sheer depressing nature of it all. My BMR is only 1600. Sticking to 1000 or less is so hard.

My husband, on the other hand, seems to have no hunger and amazing self control. Last night he ate a single sweet potato and declared that as his dinner. His BMR is 2700. I can see him visibly changing before my eyes.

I guess I’m just jealous.

OP posts:
RoseField1 · Today 10:51

hiddenforest · Today 10:08

I am a reformed fatty and have a BMI of 28. I’m not slim but I’m definitely not massive. About 11lbs overweight.

That's impossible unless you are 4 foot 3 tall

RoseField1 · Today 10:52

Tonissister · Today 10:13

Some people can't diet. Sounds like you are one. I am. I just get hangry and tearful and dizzy and weak and can't concentrate. I can either diet or function. Not both at the same time. Years ago I asked on MN how other people cope at work when feeling like this and was amazed at how many people said they don't have these problems when dieting. They just feel a bit hungry. I guess, like people do on WLI - far less food but not too bothered by it.

If it just doesn't work for you, try a different approach. I suggest you eat your 1600 calories and lose weight by doing strenuous exercise four times a week, and gentle exercise 7 times a week. That's what I did, (actually, I ate more like 2,200 a day) and still lost 15lbs in six months. If I'd stuck to 1600 cals, I'd have lost twice that. I started doing weight training, bootcamps, yoga vinyasa flow (which is a lot more physical than people think) and walking everywhere. People online everywhere say you can't lose weight through exercise alone. I'm living proof you can.

You could get a bit clever about calories, though. Butternut squash tastes similar to sweet potato but has half the calories. I always use it instead, in any recipe that calls for sweet potato. Bulk out dinners with lots of steamed or grilled veg. You can fill a plate with sweet grilled peppers and red onions, fresh steamed broccoli or chard and barely reach 100 calories.

Edited

1600 calories a day is also 'dieting' inasmuch as dieting means eating in a calorie deficit. You don't have to be starving to lose weight.

Peonies12 · Today 10:54

You're eating far too little, that is not sustainable. You should focus on what you are eating rather than calories. Cut out all ultra processed food. Lots of salads, veg, wholegrains, lean meat and fish.

SerafinasGoose · Today 10:55

Eating less than 1200 calories a day isn't advised. I don't know your individual statistics of course, but I suspect you'll struggle to maintain even if you do succeed in losing weight on such a restrictive diet.

ToffeePennie · Today 11:00

I really love the advice to “just exercise more”.
With what time? OP may already have her days full (like me) or being tested for various health issues (like me) or just not be very fit at all and finds exercise even worse than dieting.
I personally am struggling through the Same hell to try and get my hysterectomy - except with my meds I’m so incredibly tired. I fall asleep at 8pm in my dinner plate!

Wickedlittledancer · Today 11:00

Why on earth would you think the medication decimates your muscle and reduces your bmr. Surely even common sense would tell you it’s your diet not the drugs and you’re in the process of doing that right now.

how odd,

AlbieJiggered · Today 11:01

RoseField1 · Today 10:51

That's impossible unless you are 4 foot 3 tall

That's bollocks. My BMI would be 28 if I weighed 11st 9lbs. I'd be 18 lbs above the top end of the Normal BMI range. I am a lot taller than 4'3".

Lemondrizzlesquash7 · Today 11:01

I lost over 5 stone easily on Slimming World- you never go hungry honestly it’s a great way to change your way of eating- low fat, lots of fruit and vegetables.

susiedaisy1912 · Today 11:02

SassyLemonFish · Today 08:12

I refuse to shell out hundreds to decimate my muscle and bmr further. I can’t afford it with adult children to support. Also, at some point I’d need to stop it. The more permanent solution is for me to learn to live with hunger.

Good luck with learning to live with hunger and cravings 24/7. I’ve tried it for years on and off and it’s bloody miserable.

RoseField1 · Today 11:03

AlbieJiggered · Today 11:01

That's bollocks. My BMI would be 28 if I weighed 11st 9lbs. I'd be 18 lbs above the top end of the Normal BMI range. I am a lot taller than 4'3".

18lbs isn't 11lbs 😕

hiddenforest · Today 11:04

RoseField1 · Today 10:51

That's impossible unless you are 4 foot 3 tall

I am 5’3 and weigh 10 stone 11lbs. Healthy weight is around 8 to 10 stone or thereabouts. So just under a stone overweight.

Waitingfordoggo · Today 11:12

Strength training boosts metabolism (and prevents muscle loss, obviously). Anyone dieting, whether in the traditional way or by using WLIs should also be doing strength training IMO.

RoseField1 · Today 11:41

hiddenforest · Today 11:04

I am 5’3 and weigh 10 stone 11lbs. Healthy weight is around 8 to 10 stone or thereabouts. So just under a stone overweight.

Your BMI is 26.8 not 28

hiddenforest · Today 11:42

I just checked and it would appear you’re right. I don’t think I’ve had that since I was 20!

SassyLemonFish · Today 11:53

ToffeePennie · Today 08:45

My BMI is 42.9.
to get a hysterectomy I have to have a bmi of 35 or less.
because I can’t have the hysterectomy, I have to have prostap, toibolone, desogesterol amongst others. All the lovely drugs that make you retain weight. The ones that turn a cup of water into fat. It’s fucking impossible, so depressing and even worse when some twat says “well just go on monjaro” like the cost isn’t extortionate and it doesn’t lead to massive health complications down the road. (Especially if like me you have other long standing heart issues that it cannot have been tested for).
Even worse when that twat saying “just go on monjaro” is your bloody mum who has lost masses of weight on it, but is now obsessed and struggling….
With you in solidarity.

I hear you

OP posts:
Happyjoe · Today 11:54

1,000 a day, you must be miserable. But you can eat and still lose weight without the hunger. Vegetables are pretty much superb, fill you up, gives you vitamins and can pad out lots of meals. When I want to lose weight, I do things like have dips for tea, lots of raw veggies, salsa and a little sour cream. Or make a vegetarian chilli (which is so nice) or veggie curry. All that munching works. And I keep away from all sugar, with the exception of a banana as they are filling.
I also add beans for protein. Beans on toast, 2 pieces, no butter and it's about 350 calories and it's a fairly filling lunch.

Drink loads. Takes away any hunger pangs. Tea/coffee, sugar-free squash, water. But to be honest, I'd rather eat a bit more than your 1,000 a day but get out and get moving. Nice stomp around the neighbourhood, maybe dance in the lounge to fav music for an LP's worth (40-odd mins), do gardening and of course, other proper exercises if you have the energy.

Teainapinkcup · Today 12:00

SassyLemonFish · Today 07:59

Just looking for sympathy really.

I’ve a bmi of 28. I need to lose a lot of weight. For the last two weeks I’ve been good but MY GOD the hunger and sheer depressing nature of it all. My BMR is only 1600. Sticking to 1000 or less is so hard.

My husband, on the other hand, seems to have no hunger and amazing self control. Last night he ate a single sweet potato and declared that as his dinner. His BMR is 2700. I can see him visibly changing before my eyes.

I guess I’m just jealous.

have you tried slimming world? my mum and dh are doing well on it.

SassyLemonFish · Today 12:02

Thank you for all the comments.

If I ate 1600, then I’d lose nothing,because that’s what my body needs to maintain. I do mix in intermittent fasting, so that on the odd meal I can feel relatively normal. I also walk lots, to try to counter my sedentary job and go to the gym a couple of times a week.

Yesterday I had 3 scrambled eggs with a bit of cheese and veg for lunch = 500 cals. Then for dinner 4 rice cakes with cheese, salad and crab sticks = 500 cals.

No alcohol currently. I do absolutely love a G&T and snacks.

OP posts:
ElfAndSafetyBored · Today 12:07

SassyLemonFish · Today 08:12

I refuse to shell out hundreds to decimate my muscle and bmr further. I can’t afford it with adult children to support. Also, at some point I’d need to stop it. The more permanent solution is for me to learn to live with hunger.

No, it really isn’t. You need to change your eating habits and up your exercise.

Cut out processed foods and sugar. Up your vegetable intake. Stick to protein and lean meats.

Cut out oily stuff.

Summersongroses · Today 12:09

I think sometimes it's the food that you eat as well which make it hared. You say had cheese twice yesterday - but I personally find I can't eat a lot of cheese. it's very calorific for a small amount. For the 'calorie cost' of say 1x cheese sandwich, I could have = 1 x tuna and salad sandwich or 1 x hummous and salad sandwich, bowl of raspberries, a yoghurt and a piece of melon for the same calories as the cheese sandwich which then keeps me far more full and not hungry. I am a cheese fiend, I love it, but I find it's just not worth it when I can eat so much more of other stuff... It's hard to get into but the less you have, the less you want. On the odd occasion I have a cheese sandwich but generally I try to find other foods that I can have more of that fill me up.

ElfAndSafetyBored · Today 12:09

You can still have G&Ts, have slimline tonic and stick to singles.

Stop counting calories.

BristolHelp · Today 12:12

Try volume eating. When I lost a lot of weight, I would add a ton of veg and fruit to my plate and it'd make me feel as if I've eaten loads. Also more protein!! E.g. scrambled eggs on a slice of toast with half a melon for brekkie. Kept me going until lunch. Butternut squash also fab and v low cal

BravasPatatas · Today 12:12

SassyLemonFish · Today 12:02

Thank you for all the comments.

If I ate 1600, then I’d lose nothing,because that’s what my body needs to maintain. I do mix in intermittent fasting, so that on the odd meal I can feel relatively normal. I also walk lots, to try to counter my sedentary job and go to the gym a couple of times a week.

Yesterday I had 3 scrambled eggs with a bit of cheese and veg for lunch = 500 cals. Then for dinner 4 rice cakes with cheese, salad and crab sticks = 500 cals.

No alcohol currently. I do absolutely love a G&T and snacks.

So 1600 is your TDEE rather than your BMR?

Teainapinkcup · Today 12:13

SassyLemonFish · Today 12:02

Thank you for all the comments.

If I ate 1600, then I’d lose nothing,because that’s what my body needs to maintain. I do mix in intermittent fasting, so that on the odd meal I can feel relatively normal. I also walk lots, to try to counter my sedentary job and go to the gym a couple of times a week.

Yesterday I had 3 scrambled eggs with a bit of cheese and veg for lunch = 500 cals. Then for dinner 4 rice cakes with cheese, salad and crab sticks = 500 cals.

No alcohol currently. I do absolutely love a G&T and snacks.

rice cakes are not filling. Look at slimming world. No cal counting, just stick to plan, Which is generous, especially with the new changes, my husbands consultant always moaning about the WLI its scary actually how many are on this now... She is against them. Husbands work pals mum died from using them as got pancreatitis and did not recover. Look at slimming world. It does work and I am surprised how much you can eat of the right foods for health. If you are not going to then try 1300 cals as you can not function on 1000 thats not healthy!

SJM1988 · Today 12:13

SassyLemonFish · Today 12:02

Thank you for all the comments.

If I ate 1600, then I’d lose nothing,because that’s what my body needs to maintain. I do mix in intermittent fasting, so that on the odd meal I can feel relatively normal. I also walk lots, to try to counter my sedentary job and go to the gym a couple of times a week.

Yesterday I had 3 scrambled eggs with a bit of cheese and veg for lunch = 500 cals. Then for dinner 4 rice cakes with cheese, salad and crab sticks = 500 cals.

No alcohol currently. I do absolutely love a G&T and snacks.

is 1600 BMR or TDEE? you state BMR in the OP but now are saying that is maintenance. BMR is what you body needs to function not maintenance. TDEE is maintenance.

If you are walking is gym three time a week, I'd strongly suggest 1600 is not maintenance and to look at the calculations again.

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