Trans man Freddy McConnell's challenge to be named as father on birth certificate deemed inadmissible by the ECHR

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https://www.matrixlaw.co.uk/news/challenge-to-registration-of-transgender-man-as-mother-declared-inadmissible/

Your being disingenuous or blanking out anyone in Spain who doesn't see it your way, there are plenty of women in Spain who are objecting to this, they just been effectively silenced.

Women's Day in Spain: Trans row splits feminist movement

"8th March 2026 - Rival marches hit Madrid and Barcelona as trans row splits feminist movement on International Women’s Day

COMPETING marches have split Spain’s feminist movement for the second year running, with two separate demonstrations hitting both Madrid and Barcelona on International Women’s Day.
The divide — centred on whether trans women should be recognised within feminist spaces — saw opposing groups march simultaneously through both cities, each claiming to represent the true feminist cause."

and that's just one link, I'm sure there are plenty more that would dispute your assertion that "Spain is anything but misogynistic."

Or are you going to blame the UK for that as well.

Using 'gender neutral' terms for mother is literally erasing mother.

It is hateful and misogynistic. The woman carries the child and risks; weight gain, back ache, high blood pressure, nosebleeds, constant nausea/vomiting, gestational diabetes,preeclampsia, pelvic inflammation etc plus risking her life in childbirth. The very, very LEAST she is owed is recognition of that on the certificate of the child she did all that for and gave birth to.

Not to mention, why there's an attempt to detach the word 'mother' from biological females.

It's to take from women and children to give emotional experiences of pleasure to men, experiences rooted in fiction. It's fundamentally and grossly misogynistic. Anyone supporting this needs to take a long, hard look at themselves.

It may have escaped your notice but mother and father are ‘gender neutral’ words.

No one cares about about a mother’s self declared ‘gender’ (or lack thereof in the majority of cases). Mother is a specific legal term in the UK that denotes a primary relationship to the child and carries responsibilities.

Using ‘parent’ very much is erasing ‘mother’ - you’ve literally replaced mother with a word that has a different meaning.

The important thing to remember here is that none of that is for the benefit of the child. A child having its mother and father named is an extremely important thing and activists removing that are doing the children a disservice.

Spain allows violent men to get away with beating women as long as the man identifies as a woman so I think there is a lot of national misogyny involved.

Exactly. No person advocating for this gives two hoots about the needs and rights of the child (or the mother). This is all about men.

It has not been in place for 20 years and ordinary people, mothers especially, hace complained. I personally know several.

And the fact that jurists object should give ordinary people pause for thought.

I cannot comprehend this attitude. Whether denial of reality or willful ignorance. Just because you personally haven't thought about it critically (yet, hopefully) it does not mean the opinion doesn't exist.

It was brought in originally in 2006 as is clear from the BOE. Of course Spain has issues with misogyny as does every country on earth. However I think if you look at our policies you will find there is rather a lot more being done about it here than in the UK.

Also The Olive Press is hardly a serious news source for Spanish news. It is basically a magazine for expats. And that article mentions nothing about the use of gender neutral terms in birth certificates.

So in the case of two male partners is it the case that the woman whose body gestated the child is legally erased forever ? Or is it like in the UK where she will be registered on the original birth certificate and the details changed when parental authority is assigned to the parents who will raise the child.

From the moment of birth a child will need someone to be responsible for them. The one person in the world with a guaranteed link to the baby is the mother. And also the one person who is always present.

In this context Mother means the person who gave birth and the person with automatic safeguarding responsibility for the baby.

If it isnt the mother who has that responsibility? Any other parent may not be present.

For the most part, the mother has to choose to give up PR. So the authories need to know who the mother is, and that she did agree to give up or share PR with someone who isnt her husband.

That's why 'mother' on the birth certificate is so important.

If Freddie didn't want to be a mother then Freddie should not have used Freddie's eggs and womb to grow a baby (with the help of a man's sperm which Freddie was unable to provide in spite of Freddie's insistence that Freddie is a man) and then used Freddie's vagina to birth said baby.

That's a shame. He's a trans guy and his kid will call him dad.

Question is why anyone else would care. It's a private matter and affects no 'women's spaces' at all. How other people choose to live has nothing to do with anyone else.

All I care about is Freddy's a fantastic writer and very decent person, so I want him to live his life as he wants.

Agreed the Spanish approach is not laudable. Denigrating motherhood in that way would be strongly opposed where I am in Ireland in spite of some very pro trans laws here.

Question is why anyone else would care.

The court recognized that a coherent system of birth registration is in everyone’s interest, and that to describe the parent who gave birth to a child as “father” would mess with the interpretation of dozens and dozens of other laws and regulations.

All of which outweighed FM’s interests.

An equally good question is why does FM care so much? His child will, as you say, call him whatever suits them both and will know that FM was his natural mother, regardless.

Shame her kids don’t get to live their life with a mum they can call mum. It’s quite cruel and amazing that ‘trans’ advocates have zero regard for the feelings or needs of the kids. They do not exist as validation tools.

Question is why anyone else would care.

Truth matters. We stop caring about this untruth, we may as well stop caring about everything. When the pressure to tolerate untruths and ignore facts in favour of feelings reaches its full conclusion and we live in some freakish society where absolutely no-one and no legal institution takes any notice of what is and isn't true any more, dismissing it as irrelevant, it will affect you in so many ways which are nightmarish that you'll be on here complaining about it soon enough.

Lots of TRA say that birth certificates arent that important. The get a GRC and both certificates are thrown into a drawer, rarely used again. Or that they dont get a GRC because it only gives them a rarely used birth certificate.

But for Freddie, his children's birth certificate will affect his relationship with them?

We care about the sexism.

People living how they live - fine.

People literally applying to the courts to have their sexist beliefs about men and women being different types of minds written into law, literally legally redefining every single one of us just to satisfy their own disordered projections?

Not fine.

Not fine at all.

Freddie is asking for this. Freddie is demanding this. Freddie is taking it to court. Freddie is making her parenting choices into a public business by asking the courts to impose her ideas about what it is to be a man or a wonen into laws that affect everybody else as well.

So if Frreddie just wants to be left alone to be a parent, Freddie is going about it a very weird way.

No. Freddie doesn't get to live a life chosen at the expense of a child.

I think Freddie should have lost the right to call herself a man and be legally recognised as a man the minute she chose to use her female reproductive organs to conceive a child, carry it and birth it through her vagina, frankly.

Having a supportive, happy dad damages no child.

Abuse, control and neglect are deleterious to kids - how their parents choose to identify or have sex is not.

Your prejudice is your own problem.

Surely a GRC becomes null and void once you give birth? Giving birth isn’t ’living as your acquired ’ gender, I.e as a male.

Just shows how nonsensical it all is.

They don’t have a dad. They have a deluded mother.

Having a supportive, happy dad damages no child.

It's a pity these children won't get that then, she's not been much of a 'father' or any sort of parent to them so far. Given they only exist because she wanted to use them as props in her ongoing attempted political machinations, I don't expect that's going to change anytime soon.

Stop projecting your family dynamics onto children.

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Freddie has already made it perfectly clear that laws don’t apply to Freddie if Freddie doesn’t want them to. So for example, Freddie was only too happy to make a legal declaration that they intend to live the rest of their life as a man in order to be awarded a GRC , but then the very same week trotted down the road to confirm their appointment at the Fertility clinic to fertilise and implant the eggs that they had presumably previously harvested pre testosterone, so that Freddie can do that manly act of carrying their genetic child in their womb.

Manipulative and dishonest.