Dundee girl with axe verdict- Ilia Belov found guilty of assault and injury

[snowbear22]

The Dundee girl who brandished an axe has been vindicated today as the court case has proved that she acted in self defence, her sister was attacked by the adults Ilia Belov and his sister.
Ilia Belov has today been convicted of assault and injury and making sexual remarks to a child.
The court heard previously that the 12-year-old girl Belov attacked admitted pulling a knife and axe from her waistband, but only after Belov had assaulted her.
The girl told the trial previously that her sister started to shout at Belov after the remarks, but the pair were pulled away by a friend.
She then told the court Belova approached the group, pushed her and threw her sister to the ground.

At the time the girl was believed to be the aggressor by many, particularly Freddy Sayers, editor of UnHeard, who called the reaction to the video 'propaganda slop' and Kathleen Stock's article, which did not defend or show much sympathy for the girls although the 12 year old is clearly scared in the video, but was concerned about the right wing narrative on X which emerged as it fitted the narrative of anti immigrant propaganda.

Link to origional vidio filmed by Mr Belov

Ilia Belov & sister found guilty of attacking girls in Dundee

Kathleen Stock 'Britain doesn’t need stupid hot takes'

I knew nothing of this and I am appalled at the comments made by people who should know better.
People who complain about Musk's comments need to take a long hard look at what they themselves have said.

Thank you for that very informative post. Something the so called investigative journalists at the Daily Mail could have discovered before they did their hit piece on the girls.

It wasn't just the Daily Mail though was it.

No it wasn't. Unheard should hang their heads in shame. What is concerning apart from the police behaviour is that there are no investigative journalists in this country who retain a healthy scepticism and are prepared to dig up evidence, let alone the police who are supposed to be sceptical.

Hamza Useless is already irrelevant but Stock and Bindel have just made themselves irrelevant.

Well, seeing as the police said it was the girls who started it all by approaching the two Bulgarians, and didn’t withdraw it when it was reviewed on CCTV as far as I aware, I suppose newspapers thought they were dealing with the facts. You don’t expect the police to be essentially lying. If unsubstantiated, they might have just released a statement that they were investigating an incident involving the parties.

Now, Hamza jumped on the misinformation given by the police with apparent glee, and just used it for his own purposes. One thing I am surprised about, is that he said that after the police reviewed the CCTV, nothing was revealed to support the girls’ claims about Belov and Belova. I though the CCTV did support the girls’ story. So, I wonder if Hamza was not telling the truth about the CCTV, or if he was simply repeating something the police stated about the CCTV.

With Swinney getting involved, it really was a campaign of disinformation/misinformation by the state.

When did the police finally take down their misinformation about the girls approaching (and implying they were the instigators in the whole thing) the man and woman, I wonder?

Have any of them formally apologised yet?

From that Scottish Sun report. ‘The girl was initially charged with possessing weapons before cops found CCTV of the full incident.’

So, it is strange for Hamza to say that it appears after reviewing the CCTV, the police found nothing to support the girls’ claims. (Paraphrased). If the police hadn’t stated that (and goodness knows they did issue a statement with misinformation) could Hamza have simply made it up for good measure?

The police put out a statement claiming that they had reviewed the cctv and that it backed up the man and his sisters account.
Yet when that cctv was shown in crt it backed the girls up not the man and his sister.
The police actively lied to the public when putting out their statement about "misinformation" this lie was picked up and spread by useless and co to paint the girls as racist thugs.
The question is why did the police lie to the public and slander her, potentially contaminating the jury pool when this was a live investigation and Scotlands extremely strict contemp laws will have been in effect

What did the police statement say exactly?

Just the same as the police tried to slander Henry Nowak even after he was dead and the CPS intervened to tell the police to back off as it would affect the jury trial.

They said that cctv showed the man and his companion encountering a group of youths, and that they had not found evidence of the man committing a crime – which was true enough at the time (the separate cctv footage showing him pushing the girl to the ground had not yet been retrieved).

It was a serious error of judgement to make any statement at all, when the matter was still under investigation, was sub judice regarding the offensive weapons charge, and was subject to reporting restrictions because of the involvement of minors.

Also, the fact that the police thought their statement would be in some way reassuring shows a shocking lack of understanding of human nature.

When the additional footage was retrieved, the case became sub judice regarding the assault charge against the man, and he could not be named in the press release about that charge, because of the involvement of minors: the full picture only came out at trial.

Hamza should have kept quiet about an ongoing investigation.

The Daily Mail article would still have happened.

There were a couple but most have disappeared from their website and Facebook etc acounts (oh what a surprise) and there's now a grudging statement about their previous statement not being "wholly accurate".
I hope someone has archived or screenshoted them as out of the 4 or 5 that were put out up here i can only find 2 and a new 1 say that the others were inaccurate 🤬

Is this one of them?

https://www.scotland.police.uk/what-s-happening/news/2025/august/statement-from-police-scotland-following-incident-in-dundee/

Yes @noshade there was 1 before that which talked about having reviewed cctv and then another after aswell and yet another after that, which mainly talked about the girl and at the very end mentions that 2 adults had also been arrested but didn't say what for or the charges or that it was the 2 who the police previously claimed were the victims.

Thanks. I'm not questioning the views on this thread, just be clear. But so much of it is second-hand, and it's hard to judge the police's actions/conduct without being able to see exactly what was said.

I agree and as someone who watched unfold in real time with the constantly changing statements and all the lies from MSPs, police and Internet warriors etc it can be hard to know what's true especially when people disappear their previous statements.
All of this makes me long for the days when people couldn't just delete things with the push of a button and pretend that they didn't say the things that they did

I recall seeing a series of statements as you describe but the only one on the Police Scotland website that has been archived is the one posted by @noshade Same statement from Aug 2025 to June 2026.

The other statements must have been published in News articles or on social media.

I know that is appalling.
I’ve seen some awful videos too on social media of police being v violent and heavy handed over the weekend.
Horrifc! It’s all out of control.

Has Humza Yousless apologised yet? He was quick to say she was lying 🤥

Humza possess that amazing brass neck that so many of our politicians display these days - no ability to feel ashamed of yourself must be a real 'positive' attribute in political life 🙄

@Hoardasurass ’The police put out a statement claiming that they had reviewed the cctv and that it backed up the man and his sisters account.’

Interesting and shocking in equal parts. I suppose they did it for a political aim. How worrying is that? I’m still unsure how the cctv they examined backed up the two adults account if there was also cctv which subsequently showed the girls were telling the truth. The most the police could have said is that they hadn’t seen evidence as of yet which showed what the girls had claimed. And, indeed they should have said nothing in any case.

Where has the ‘we’re investigating an incident’ gone? Just so they don’t start peddling what turns out to be disinformation. And if it was for a political aim, I think that is what it is really.

Kathleen Stock has written a spirited response to her critics:

https://x.com/Docstockk/status/2066778892203876434

In that tweet Stock says

Lat week the young girl's Bulgarian attackers were found guilty of assaulting her and pulling her hair,

The pulling her hair comment seems like an effort to downplay the seriousness of the assault

I must admit when it was revealed that such young girls received punches, and heavy impacts to their heads, I thought it very sad. I don’t know if they had concussions, mild or otherwise.

Someone more knowledgeable than me said that many women in prison will have received head injuries during their lives. Women from lower socio economic backgrounds are in prison to a higher degree than women from other backgrounds, I believe. The majority of crimes being theft and such. Maybe someone with more expertise can put that in context.

Of course, these women who now have to pretend men in their midst are women. And don’t represent any harm to them.

Yes injuries to the head can cause early dementia. There’s a big push to stop kids doing sports like boxing or rugby because of head injuries. Women who experience domestic violence more likely to get dementia too.
Not a small deal