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Boyfriend strange with money

396 replies

Midfortiescamb · Yesterday 23:00

My boyfriend is confusing me. Been together about 1.5 years, both 47, divorced. I have three kids, shared custody, he has two who are 15 and 12 and he sees every other weekend. He's lovely with my kids and easy to be around, bit over chatty but fine. He's generally kind and patient and has gotten over pushing us to live together which was driven by the fact that he hates paying rent but has now put an offer in on buying his own house. There's a money issue though and I've tried to be fair and patient...on our first date he didn't take his card out to pay, so I did and he later said he liked that I didn't expect him to pay (I didn't tbh but told myself why should the man pay). He paid for our second date in a simple Vietnamese place but I could feel his tension shuffling his cards choosing which one. But he was sweet so we carried on. Our first road trip he drove so I offered petrol money, he accepted and from then on it was clear I'd pay half for petrol. Meals were always split. I spoiled him as I like to on his bday in a lovely restaurant and gifts etc. On my bday he got me a pair of earrings on sale on Etsy which were pretty and took me to a restaurant but tensely said 'is this the kind of place you get starters' so I obviously said no need and only got a cheap main. He told me the other part of my gift was he'd take me for a hike and I wouldn't have to pay half for petrol. He cried a bit the next morning after I was honest after he asked me were the gifts not good and I gently said that petrol thing wasn't really normal. A few weeks later when he said he wanted to see me so would go to his fave Chinese on the way and bring it to mine without offering to get me some I calmly told him I'm struggling with this constant splitting of things, he should trust that I'm not after his money and I took him out to celebrate his new job etc. I am a generous person. To make up for the bday he bought me flowers but mentioned how they're good value in Morrissons, where they were from. Fast forward to this bday coming up in two weeks...I was honestly so nervous about him spoiling it so I booked myself a cottage in Wales for a couple of days and it hurt him but I told him to please not take it personally. My ex husband upset me on my bdays and I could do with a couple of days to myself but really, I know boyfriend isn't good at romance and I couldn't face another awkward meal. Anyway, twice over the last few weeks he has mentioned how he budgeted for my present (a hot water bottle) last month so this month he's budgeting for the meal. He earns £50k and only gives his ex wife the amount the child support calculator asks of him which is around £200 ish per month, he says because she gets children's allowance: not my business but I do think kids cost more and his daughter is autistic so needs therapy. Anyway, he then asked whether I want to go to the restaurants i took him to on my bday, I said, please - you choose. He said 'I'll just take you to the one you took me to'. I said to him, my love, please can we just not do bdays, anniversaries, Xmas (he got me a five pack of socks)...let's free ourselves, there's something awkward/tense with money and its making me uncomfortable, feeling like work/burden. He got very upset and said he couldn't feel more hurt or empty and is now not really talking to me! Its been 2 days. I told him he'd never expressed any kind of excitement about my bday and I just don't want this heaviness. There are just so many money orientated odd things...like he bought me pink salt and I said it was lovely and he said '£1'. I know his ex wife said he was controlling about money but he said she expected him to be the bread winner and was financially abusive: obviously I don't know the full story. It all just feels so awkward and I don't like how he's gone cold. Otherwise he's very affectionate and sweet....not selfish in bed but a bit predictable. Anyway....thoughts?

OP posts:
OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · Today 00:05

' I just don't get why he wept when I told him it was shit. '

emotional blackmail - how dare you criticise him / his actions when he was doing something so lovely for you.

Happyjoe · Today 00:05

Midfortiescamb · Today 00:01

I really do. And you know what, he had bad erectile dysfunction for our first six months due to years of sexual rejection from his wife and I was so compassionate and helped him get back to great function. Asshole!!!!

Well, perhaps give him back the 5 pack of socks and he's got something to wank into?

LizandDerekGoals · Today 00:06

Midfortiescamb · Today 00:01

I really do. And you know what, he had bad erectile dysfunction for our first six months due to years of sexual rejection from his wife and I was so compassionate and helped him get back to great function. Asshole!!!!

Does he blame everything on his ex wife?…

… while only seeing his kids once a fortnight.

Midfortiescamb · Today 00:07

LizandDerekGoals · Today 00:06

Does he blame everything on his ex wife?…

… while only seeing his kids once a fortnight.

Edited

Basically yes....

OP posts:
bigboykitty · Today 00:08

Impossible to imagine why the ex wife didn't want to shag this insufferable tightwad! Crying about the hike. The man's ridiculous.

AlbieJiggered · Today 00:08

Midfortiescamb · Today 00:07

Basically yes....

Bin him.

EnjoythemoneyJane · Today 00:09

Being tight with money isn’t just a personality quirk, it’s a lack of generosity that invades every aspect of a relationship. Begrudging every penny you spend is the mark of a shrivelled heart, counting the cost of everything and understanding the value of nothing.

There’s a difference between being careful - which is understandable in those who’ve grown up poor or known hardship - and penny-pinching tightness, which is a mindset that’s hardwired regardless of circumstances.

You’re obviously a generous soul, but you’re trying to compensate for someone who just can’t and won’t ever reciprocate, and that’ll crush you in the end. He’s not for you, OP, as his current sulking confirms.

BelieveInCher · Today 00:11

LizandDerekGoals · Today 00:06

Does he blame everything on his ex wife?…

… while only seeing his kids once a fortnight.

Edited

If the OP breaks up with him he’ll be telling the next one the OP was a gold digger after his money. They’re so pathetic.

Midfortiescamb · Today 00:12

EnjoythemoneyJane · Today 00:09

Being tight with money isn’t just a personality quirk, it’s a lack of generosity that invades every aspect of a relationship. Begrudging every penny you spend is the mark of a shrivelled heart, counting the cost of everything and understanding the value of nothing.

There’s a difference between being careful - which is understandable in those who’ve grown up poor or known hardship - and penny-pinching tightness, which is a mindset that’s hardwired regardless of circumstances.

You’re obviously a generous soul, but you’re trying to compensate for someone who just can’t and won’t ever reciprocate, and that’ll crush you in the end. He’s not for you, OP, as his current sulking confirms.

Thank you ❤️

OP posts:
EnjoythemoneyJane · Today 00:14

Midfortiescamb · Today 00:03

Not just a hike: I didn't have to pay half for petrol that time or petrol station lunch! I just don't get why he wept when I told him it was shit.

Because, for him, letting you off petrol money on a free hike and treating you to a gas station sarnie was a grand romantic gesture equivalent to flying you first class to Venice for the weekend, you grabby gold digger … 😂

Midfortiescamb · Today 00:15

EnjoythemoneyJane · Today 00:14

Because, for him, letting you off petrol money on a free hike and treating you to a gas station sarnie was a grand romantic gesture equivalent to flying you first class to Venice for the weekend, you grabby gold digger … 😂

Hahahaa tis true, all I wanted him for was money and gold bars and private jets

OP posts:
disturbia · Today 00:18

Midfortiescamb · Yesterday 23:00

My boyfriend is confusing me. Been together about 1.5 years, both 47, divorced. I have three kids, shared custody, he has two who are 15 and 12 and he sees every other weekend. He's lovely with my kids and easy to be around, bit over chatty but fine. He's generally kind and patient and has gotten over pushing us to live together which was driven by the fact that he hates paying rent but has now put an offer in on buying his own house. There's a money issue though and I've tried to be fair and patient...on our first date he didn't take his card out to pay, so I did and he later said he liked that I didn't expect him to pay (I didn't tbh but told myself why should the man pay). He paid for our second date in a simple Vietnamese place but I could feel his tension shuffling his cards choosing which one. But he was sweet so we carried on. Our first road trip he drove so I offered petrol money, he accepted and from then on it was clear I'd pay half for petrol. Meals were always split. I spoiled him as I like to on his bday in a lovely restaurant and gifts etc. On my bday he got me a pair of earrings on sale on Etsy which were pretty and took me to a restaurant but tensely said 'is this the kind of place you get starters' so I obviously said no need and only got a cheap main. He told me the other part of my gift was he'd take me for a hike and I wouldn't have to pay half for petrol. He cried a bit the next morning after I was honest after he asked me were the gifts not good and I gently said that petrol thing wasn't really normal. A few weeks later when he said he wanted to see me so would go to his fave Chinese on the way and bring it to mine without offering to get me some I calmly told him I'm struggling with this constant splitting of things, he should trust that I'm not after his money and I took him out to celebrate his new job etc. I am a generous person. To make up for the bday he bought me flowers but mentioned how they're good value in Morrissons, where they were from. Fast forward to this bday coming up in two weeks...I was honestly so nervous about him spoiling it so I booked myself a cottage in Wales for a couple of days and it hurt him but I told him to please not take it personally. My ex husband upset me on my bdays and I could do with a couple of days to myself but really, I know boyfriend isn't good at romance and I couldn't face another awkward meal. Anyway, twice over the last few weeks he has mentioned how he budgeted for my present (a hot water bottle) last month so this month he's budgeting for the meal. He earns £50k and only gives his ex wife the amount the child support calculator asks of him which is around £200 ish per month, he says because she gets children's allowance: not my business but I do think kids cost more and his daughter is autistic so needs therapy. Anyway, he then asked whether I want to go to the restaurants i took him to on my bday, I said, please - you choose. He said 'I'll just take you to the one you took me to'. I said to him, my love, please can we just not do bdays, anniversaries, Xmas (he got me a five pack of socks)...let's free ourselves, there's something awkward/tense with money and its making me uncomfortable, feeling like work/burden. He got very upset and said he couldn't feel more hurt or empty and is now not really talking to me! Its been 2 days. I told him he'd never expressed any kind of excitement about my bday and I just don't want this heaviness. There are just so many money orientated odd things...like he bought me pink salt and I said it was lovely and he said '£1'. I know his ex wife said he was controlling about money but he said she expected him to be the bread winner and was financially abusive: obviously I don't know the full story. It all just feels so awkward and I don't like how he's gone cold. Otherwise he's very affectionate and sweet....not selfish in bed but a bit predictable. Anyway....thoughts?

He sounds very mean ...who buys anyone a hot water bottle as a birthday present? If you are in UK there's a heatwave here just now. Also the crying is a bit strange for an adult. Your choice in the end

Happyjoe · Today 00:18

Does it matter? It's not the cost, it's the thoughfulness, or lack of it.
SOCKS! Ffs.

Midfortiescamb · Today 00:18

Naaaaa thick winter socks advertised on FB and he ordered them next to me in bed. I couldn't believe they were the only gift. But they were.

OP posts:
Stationbike · Today 00:23

You are so obviously a nice woman but boy have you awful taste in men.

He is a very mean man.
Mean with his children.

How could you find tat attractive?

I wouldn't want him near my children.
Meanness goes to the core of a person's character.

Want more for yourself or stay away from men completely until you up your bar.

You and your children deserve so much better.

I an only imagine the stories his poor Ex would have.

VoltaireMittyDream · Today 00:25

ResultsMayVary · Yesterday 23:10

You mentioned his daughter is on the spectrum and I wonder if he is too. So many he's trying to do the 'fair' thing and make you happy but the nuances and his you might be feeling have completely bypassed him.

It does sound exhausting and like you're walking on egg shells.

This.

Extreme fear of waste (almost as though it’s against the law), insistence on ‘fairness’ over treating people, huge emotional overreaction when you explain kindly and gently what feels odd or uncaring about his approach or what you might like better. Huge stress around birthdays or special occasions. Gifts that are some combination of cheap and perfunctory and soullessly practical and/or self-serving in some way, and genuinely no way of understanding of why this is hurtful no matter how often you explain. Nuance passing him by, not understanding why it’s important to be nice / complimentary / reassuring, etc etc

All textbook

NeatPinkFinch · Today 00:27

Thoughts? Get some standards and dump him.

Startin2mroagain · Today 00:29

ugh why did you even give him a second date?! Dump him

AlbieJiggered · Today 00:31

Midfortiescamb · Today 00:18

Naaaaa thick winter socks advertised on FB and he ordered them next to me in bed. I couldn't believe they were the only gift. But they were.

Ah, he's so caring, wants to protect you from the cold.

My fanny would have got frozen shut on the spot.

Saracen · Today 00:31

The two of you just aren't compatible; that's all you need to know. It shouldn't be such hard work.

banmusk · Today 00:35

As well as being tight fisted he sounds very moody & huffy. I think he sounds like bad news/hard work/a head fuck (pardon my french).

meringuenests · Today 00:36

🗑️

banmusk · Today 00:42

If he cant avoid giving a gift he makes sure that it is; the cheapest possible option, selected with no care or consideration from whatever online marketplace is to hand.
I think I'd have responded in kind the very first time this happened.

Willweeverfindout · Today 00:51

Honestly, give this one up! It’s ingrained and you can’t buy out meanness, no matter how much you pay. You sound lovely and understanding, this one isn’t for you. Good luck.

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