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Equal bill splitting annoyance

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Adfreefreezer · Yesterday 19:55

Just after some balanced opinions.

Context is that 4 of us old work colleagues meet for dinner 2 or 3 times a year.

We always split the bill equally between us.

Last time we met last week it was noticeable that 2 of us including me ordered a drink at the bar when we arrived and then paid for it ourselves and then found our table and didn't drink any more.

Other 2 ordered all drinks at the table to go on the group tab and had 4 or 5 alcoholic drinks.

I had a main at 15 quid, others ordered mains all about 20 to 22 each, no issue there.

However the bill came to just over 160 plus tip and we all paid about 45 each, it really struck home that 2 of us are massively subsidising the others 2 alcohol !

Don't want to spoil the atmosphere but equally it's irritating !

No one skint , all working

What is a pleasant way to put a stop to this ?! Without being mean or penny pinching

OP posts:
Mary46 · Today 12:27

Op your right and they happy for you to pay it too. Its def tricky if people dont drink but again this should be said at the start.

Friendlygingercat · Today 13:08

As a single Ive often found that drinks in pubs can work out unequally when you socialise with couples. There are two of them to be bought for but often they only buy one round between them. So they with their dual income are buying me one drink and I on my single income am buying two drinks. Having a kitty also works out unfairly for those who prefer soft drinks. I have always paid for my own drinks in these situations and usually gone to the bar and returned with two at a time to save frequent trips. Drinking in bars is too expensive anyway. I think a lot of people have made this decision looking at the number of pubs that have closed.

DontEatTheMushies · Today 13:28

When we have this situation, my OH will go up to the bar on way to the loo etc, pay for our share then when they bring up the bill at the end, he says he has paid for ours. But we do also have some friends where we have like a tit for tat going, and we take it in turns, or we order a det menu so it is always same price pp.

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · Today 13:35

Adfreefreezer · Today 11:10

I don't think it's deliberately, just thoughtless, a fiver or a tenner I wouldn't mind at all.

It's a bill of over 100 quid for alcohol for 4 people , one has had none, one has had 1 drink and the other 2 are necking it at great speed!

I know if I was the one necking it down I would offer to pay more.

It might not be premeditated, but it does very much sound like they're happily taking advantage of the situation as they see how things pan out. It's usually very obvious when you're going at it on the spirits, cocktails or fancy wines and somebody else has a coke or half a pint of beer or two.

MasterBeth · Today 13:49

Pinkchickenwine · Today 09:56

Says someone who splitting the bill will favour them!

Why would you expect friends to subsidise your alcohol?

I wouldn't.

I generously overpay in these situations so this bad feeling doesn't occur.

MasterBeth · Today 13:58

Pinkfluffypencilcase · Today 01:15

How does it even out though? In my mind t can’t even out.

You can't imagine a friendship that is about more than the cost of meals out and car journeys to get there?

When I think of the to and fro, give and take of my friendships, they are about both parties generously sharing their time, money and attention on each other, sometimes unevenly, over the course of many years. If I took out a notebook at any particular moment to jot down the transactional cost of any single evening out, I would kill the friendship dead in an instant.

"What about that ice cream you bought me on holiday in the 2000s when my cash card got lost in the machine?"

"You still owe me for the flowers I sent you when your Dad died."

"Remember when I picked your kids up from Brownies because you locked your keys in your car? I don't think you ever gave me a contribution for the petrol..."

MrsPapillon · Today 14:05

You can't imagine a friendship that is about more than the cost of meals out and car journeys to get there?

I can’t imagine a friendship that’s give, give, give while my friend take, take, takes. Only an absolute doormat would tolerate such an uneven ‘friendship’. If you’re more than happy to keep generously overpaying while your friends keep taking from you, you might consider that your friendship isn’t very valuable to them and they are just using you for cheap nights out.

MasterBeth · Today 14:08

MrsPapillon · Today 14:05

You can't imagine a friendship that is about more than the cost of meals out and car journeys to get there?

I can’t imagine a friendship that’s give, give, give while my friend take, take, takes. Only an absolute doormat would tolerate such an uneven ‘friendship’. If you’re more than happy to keep generously overpaying while your friends keep taking from you, you might consider that your friendship isn’t very valuable to them and they are just using you for cheap nights out.

Well, no shit, but that's not the circumstances the previous poster ("in time it balances out in my friendship group") or I were describing.

ACynicalDad · Today 14:10

If you leave early go and pay for your bits at the till (don't forget the service charge). They can sort as they see fit.

MrsPapillon · Today 14:11

MasterBeth · Today 14:08

Well, no shit, but that's not the circumstances the previous poster ("in time it balances out in my friendship group") or I were describing.

But that’s not pertinent to this thread. You’ve stated that OP is penny pinching and should be happy to pay extra. Given that OP doesn’t drink, it’s not going to even out any time soon, unless she started doubling her food intake. What works for you isn’t relevant to this particular situation.

MasterBeth · Today 14:15

MrsPapillon · Today 14:11

But that’s not pertinent to this thread. You’ve stated that OP is penny pinching and should be happy to pay extra. Given that OP doesn’t drink, it’s not going to even out any time soon, unless she started doubling her food intake. What works for you isn’t relevant to this particular situation.

Of course it's pertinent to this thread, if you bother to read the thread.

You are responding to a very early comment on this thread based on the OP's original post.

Pinkfluffypencilcase · Today 14:30

MasterBeth · Today 13:58

You can't imagine a friendship that is about more than the cost of meals out and car journeys to get there?

When I think of the to and fro, give and take of my friendships, they are about both parties generously sharing their time, money and attention on each other, sometimes unevenly, over the course of many years. If I took out a notebook at any particular moment to jot down the transactional cost of any single evening out, I would kill the friendship dead in an instant.

"What about that ice cream you bought me on holiday in the 2000s when my cash card got lost in the machine?"

"You still owe me for the flowers I sent you when your Dad died."

"Remember when I picked your kids up from Brownies because you locked your keys in your car? I don't think you ever gave me a contribution for the petrol..."

Not at all.
with my friend who can consume a lot more than me. Think a whole bottle wine and 3 courses whereas I’d have a main and one drink. I would split 50:50 till I couldn’t justify it any more with my budget. She realised and actually paid for some meals at places where it was out of my budget. I’ve passed on stuff like furniture and baby stuff to her.
yes that friendship is a balanced and we both see that. But routinely splitting when there’s a disparity esp between work colleagues isn’t something I’d do anymore.

Thechaseison71 · Today 14:33

MasterBeth · Today 13:58

You can't imagine a friendship that is about more than the cost of meals out and car journeys to get there?

When I think of the to and fro, give and take of my friendships, they are about both parties generously sharing their time, money and attention on each other, sometimes unevenly, over the course of many years. If I took out a notebook at any particular moment to jot down the transactional cost of any single evening out, I would kill the friendship dead in an instant.

"What about that ice cream you bought me on holiday in the 2000s when my cash card got lost in the machine?"

"You still owe me for the flowers I sent you when your Dad died."

"Remember when I picked your kids up from Brownies because you locked your keys in your car? I don't think you ever gave me a contribution for the petrol..."

But it could be the same people subsiding meals, giving emotional support, doing favours etd and the other group just " take"

Pinkfluffypencilcase · Today 14:35

Friendlygingercat · Today 13:08

As a single Ive often found that drinks in pubs can work out unequally when you socialise with couples. There are two of them to be bought for but often they only buy one round between them. So they with their dual income are buying me one drink and I on my single income am buying two drinks. Having a kitty also works out unfairly for those who prefer soft drinks. I have always paid for my own drinks in these situations and usually gone to the bar and returned with two at a time to save frequent trips. Drinking in bars is too expensive anyway. I think a lot of people have made this decision looking at the number of pubs that have closed.

Yes!
I used to only have a coke whilst the rest of the round were pints. I’d still do the round to be sociable. But then when I asked for a vodka with my coke there were comments I was well pissed off. Then just started getting my own.

MasterBeth · Today 15:32

Thechaseison71 · Today 14:33

But it could be the same people subsiding meals, giving emotional support, doing favours etd and the other group just " take"

It could be, yes.

And in that kind of "friendship", do you really think the right response is to make sure you pay for your own drinks?

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