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Oh no BBC, not you as well

36 replies

OutOfApricots · 05/07/2026 09:52

There's an article about the Royal family on the BBC website, and in that article is the sentence:

'Competitive sister-in-laws.'

Oh dear me.

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6ate9 · 05/07/2026 09:58

OutOfApricots · 05/07/2026 09:52

There's an article about the Royal family on the BBC website, and in that article is the sentence:

'Competitive sister-in-laws.'

Oh dear me.

That’s bad!!!

6ate9 · 05/07/2026 09:59

Had to edit, as I made a mistake!!!

0livetree · 05/07/2026 10:00

I don’t get it

AgentPidge · 05/07/2026 10:00

😮

AgentPidge · 05/07/2026 10:01

0livetree · 05/07/2026 10:00

I don’t get it

Sisters-in-law

0livetree · 05/07/2026 10:01

Oh I see it now lol

RaraRachael · 05/07/2026 10:01

It should be "sisters-in-law"

Hoodle · 05/07/2026 10:01

Just musing, but what’s the plural of ‘print-out’ (as a noun)? ‘Print-outs’ or prints-out’?

Kingdomofsleep · 05/07/2026 10:03

I disagree - otherwise "in-laws" wouldn't be a thing. "I love my in-laws."

Sometimes usage is the rule.

6ate9 · 05/07/2026 10:04

Hoodle · 05/07/2026 10:01

Just musing, but what’s the plural of ‘print-out’ (as a noun)? ‘Print-outs’ or prints-out’?

Print-outs.

Hoodle · 05/07/2026 10:07

6ate9 · 05/07/2026 10:04

Print-outs.

That’s what I would say and write. But it doesn’t follow the logic of ‘sisters-in-law’ or ‘Lords Lieutenant’.

6ate9 · 05/07/2026 10:08

Kingdomofsleep · 05/07/2026 10:03

I disagree - otherwise "in-laws" wouldn't be a thing. "I love my in-laws."

Sometimes usage is the rule.

My in-laws" is grammatically correct as a plural noun to refer to your relatives by marriage, particularly your spouse's parents.

For more specific relatives, pluralize the primary noun, not the "law". For example, use brothers-in-law or sisters-in-law rather than "brother-in-laws" or "sister-in-laws"

champagnetrial · 05/07/2026 10:09

the noun takes the plural.

OutOfApricots · 05/07/2026 10:09

6ate9 · 05/07/2026 09:59

Had to edit, as I made a mistake!!!

Muphry's Law strikes again!

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6ate9 · 05/07/2026 10:10

OutOfApricots · 05/07/2026 10:09

Muphry's Law strikes again!

🤣🤣

champagnetrial · 05/07/2026 10:10

(I realise I did not capitalise that sentence.)

6ate9 · 05/07/2026 10:12

Hoodle · 05/07/2026 10:07

That’s what I would say and write. But it doesn’t follow the logic of ‘sisters-in-law’ or ‘Lords Lieutenant’.

The plural of Lord Lieutenant is Lord- Lieutenants

BoredZelda · 05/07/2026 10:13

Hoodle · 05/07/2026 10:07

That’s what I would say and write. But it doesn’t follow the logic of ‘sisters-in-law’ or ‘Lords Lieutenant’.

Yes it does. The output is the part that is plural. You are counting the number of pieces of paper.

Hoodle · 05/07/2026 10:16

6ate9 · 05/07/2026 10:12

The plural of Lord Lieutenant is Lord- Lieutenants

I beg to differ. It’s like the plural of Lord of Appeal in Ordinary. That’s obviously ‘Lords’ not ‘Ordinarys’.

Hoodle · 05/07/2026 10:19

BoredZelda · 05/07/2026 10:13

Yes it does. The output is the part that is plural. You are counting the number of pieces of paper.

That doesn’t make any difference. The only logic is whether a ‘sister-in-law’ is itself a noun, in which case it should be ‘-laws’. If the noun is ‘sister’ and ‘-in-law’ acts as an adjective then ‘sisters’.

Same with print-out.

6ate9 · 05/07/2026 10:28

Hoodle · 05/07/2026 10:16

I beg to differ. It’s like the plural of Lord of Appeal in Ordinary. That’s obviously ‘Lords’ not ‘Ordinarys’.

It’s very confusing!! The rules change depending on what sort of noun is being used.

FabiaQuintilla · 05/07/2026 10:29

Hoodle · 05/07/2026 10:19

That doesn’t make any difference. The only logic is whether a ‘sister-in-law’ is itself a noun, in which case it should be ‘-laws’. If the noun is ‘sister’ and ‘-in-law’ acts as an adjective then ‘sisters’.

Same with print-out.

Edited

I think this is because whereas -in-law is modifying the noun sister, print-out is a noun derived from the phrase to print out. No noun in that phrase. So in both cases you’re sticking the plural ending the noun.

Hoodle · 05/07/2026 10:30

6ate9 · 05/07/2026 10:28

It’s very confusing!! The rules change depending on what sort of noun is being used.

So true! I rather like the plural weirdness - and the unpredictability of English in general.

Hoodle · 05/07/2026 10:31

FabiaQuintilla · 05/07/2026 10:29

I think this is because whereas -in-law is modifying the noun sister, print-out is a noun derived from the phrase to print out. No noun in that phrase. So in both cases you’re sticking the plural ending the noun.

I tend to agree. But it’s as much about accepted usage as anything.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/07/2026 10:32

6ate9 · 05/07/2026 10:12

The plural of Lord Lieutenant is Lord- Lieutenants

That's because the important part is the job/noun - Lieutenant - not the person they are doing it for (the Monarch). For sisters-in-law, the important part is the relationship - sisters - which is then modified to clarify that it's through marriage.

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