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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS hospitals ignore single sex space ruling

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IwantToRetire · 28/06/2026 19:38

West London NHS Trust has instructed patients that they can use single-sex facilities based on their “legal gender”.

It specifically states that this can include those who have a gender recognition certificate (GRC), which transgender people can obtain to change their registered gender legally.

This means someone born a man who is trans and has a GRC will be allowed into women’s-only spaces.

The trust runs NHS services across Ealing, Hounslow, and Hammersmith and Fulham, with a focus on mental health patients, including units described as being for women only, such as at St Bernard’s Hospital. The trust also operates Broadmoor, the high-security psychiatric hospital in Berkshire, which is now men only.

The West London NHS Trust updated its “trans policy” in April and said it would do so again when more guidance is provided by NHS England, which has in turn been <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/o/OZ1z3/www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/25/campaigners-claim-labour-trans-guidance-risks-harassment/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">waiting for the Government.

Its policy says admissions to a ward are “determined by sex registered at birth/reflected on a person’s birth certificate [or by official documentation such as a gender recognition certificate]”.

“In line with current law, a trans man or a trans woman will be admitted on to a ward in accordance with their legal gender unless there is objective justification – as a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim,” it says.

Full article at https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/06/28/nhs-hospitals-ignore-single-sex-space-ruling/

And at https://archive.is/OZ1z3

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IwantToRetire · 28/06/2026 19:44

Legal fights aren’t winning the war against trans ideology. We need wholesale cultural change

Ten years on from the Brexit vote, one of my remaining memories from the embattled years following the vote to leave was the reliance on and celebration of the law. The Supreme Court was held up by the great and good of society – from politicians to public figures – as the last word on everything and anything. Whatever anyone’s personal opinions or deeply held political beliefs might’ve been, the law was the law.

My, how things have changed. Today, the Supreme Court seems to be just another body of opinion to some. Despite ruling definitively on the issue of gender vs sex – asserting that biological facts matter more than certificates, dress sense and feelings – the new legal framework for sex-based rights seems to be being ignored. The law is no longer the law.

Full article https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/06/28/legal-fights-arent-winning-the-war-against-trans-ideology/

And at https://archive.is/oEXsM

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JellySaurus · 28/06/2026 22:16

Hang on a sec, I thought you weren’t allowed to ask for sight of a person’s GRC because that would be outing them. So this NHS Trust’s guideline break the law at least twice, are both misogynisticaly and transphobicaly.

RogueFemale · 28/06/2026 22:18

Hard to know what is wrong with these people, that they cannot comprehend reality, but West London NHS Trust will, sooner or later, have to face legal reality. I hope they're not putting confused women in Broadmoor, but seems to be more a policy of allowing confused men to access women's single sex spaces. It always goes that way. It's always about men's 'rights'.

sparklyblueberry2 · 28/06/2026 22:26

Generally in these situations a single side room will always be allocated, stops any arguments. This is with the exception of A&E, ITU and CCU where clinical acuity is more important.

IwantToRetire · 28/06/2026 22:39

What is so daft is that even before the Supreme Court Ruling the existing guidelines (and yes we all know people tried to manipulate the meaning) specifically included the SSE to say that in "proportionate" situations a GRC was NOT a valid reason to included a TW in a single sex service.

Unless of course they are saying it is never proportionate for the NHS to provide actual single sex services for women.

They are all going out of their way to dig up flimsy, nonsensical, convoluted reasons why women should never ever be provided with single sex services.

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JanesLittleGirl · 28/06/2026 22:48

sparklyblueberry2 · 28/06/2026 22:26

Generally in these situations a single side room will always be allocated, stops any arguments. This is with the exception of A&E, ITU and CCU where clinical acuity is more important.

Single side rooms are a scarce but invaluable medical resource. They are primarily used for isolation for patients with a contagious disease or patients with immune deficiency. If they aren't needed for those patients then they will be used to isolate patients who would otherwise upset the other patients on the general ward - think screamers or persistent foul-mouthed shouters. The idea that there are commonly available side rooms for gender incongruent patients is laughable.

sparklyblueberry2 · 28/06/2026 22:52

JanesLittleGirl · 28/06/2026 22:48

Single side rooms are a scarce but invaluable medical resource. They are primarily used for isolation for patients with a contagious disease or patients with immune deficiency. If they aren't needed for those patients then they will be used to isolate patients who would otherwise upset the other patients on the general ward - think screamers or persistent foul-mouthed shouters. The idea that there are commonly available side rooms for gender incongruent patients is laughable.

Well that’s what happens in the trust I work in, I’ve worked in the same trust for over 20yrs. Maybe it’s not common place across the uk but it is here. You don’t get a side room for being loud (obv if the patient is loud due to learning disabilities or a medical condition as opposed to just being obnoxious than this is dealt with in a compassionate manner), what you actually get is a verbal warning followed by yellow card (equivalent to a written warning), one further behaviour after that leads to a red card which means emergency treatment in A&E/theatres/ITU only, anything more means no treatment ie ward based care and you are made to leave the hospital. It’s a system that works well.

KnottyAuty · 28/06/2026 23:20

JellySaurus · 28/06/2026 22:16

Hang on a sec, I thought you weren’t allowed to ask for sight of a person’s GRC because that would be outing them. So this NHS Trust’s guideline break the law at least twice, are both misogynisticaly and transphobicaly.

There is nothing unlawful about asking to see a GRC. There are just loads of rules about what you can and can't do or say after you have seen it. To the point where noone wants to ask because of the scary consequences...

KnottyAuty · 28/06/2026 23:25

RogueFemale · 28/06/2026 22:18

Hard to know what is wrong with these people, that they cannot comprehend reality, but West London NHS Trust will, sooner or later, have to face legal reality. I hope they're not putting confused women in Broadmoor, but seems to be more a policy of allowing confused men to access women's single sex spaces. It always goes that way. It's always about men's 'rights'.

The policy is absolutely bonkers.
While allowing men into women's spaces based on certificates, they have said it is strictly male only in Broadmoor. Thereby admitting that they know exactly who are male and female, and that they can totally operate a single sex policy. It is just that they seem to choose not to when it comes to women's spaces.

There is another alternative POV which is that their previous policy was gender self ID and it looked like people could trans themselves in/out of broadmoor. So if they have made it male only my spidey senses suggest that there has been some horrible incident which has resulted in this "transphobic" policy change... I suspect it was not the Lambeth incident because it is outside their area and the staff connected to that rape lied through their teeth about many aspects of the case so it took years to come out. If I was a journo I would be all over this trying to find out what had happened

Devilsmommy · 28/06/2026 23:49

@KnottyAuty of course they can operate single sex spaces for men, because we're not allowed to encroach on mens spaces. They don't give a shit about encroaching on women's though because how dare we want spaces away from men 🙄 if these transwomen really did want to be women then they'd understand that even if we agreed they were women, biologically they're men so that would cause discomfort for some women. They wouldn't try barging into all our single sex spaces if they genuinely gave a shit the way women do

RoyalCorgi · 29/06/2026 08:17

It's remarkable that they continue to do this both after the Supreme Court ruling which declared it illegal and after a young trans-identifying woman was raped in an all-male ward in a mental health trust in South London.

The only possible conclusion you can draw from this is that either these people are completely insane or that they want women to be raped and they want their trust to be dragged through expensive litigation in the courts.

sohard · 29/06/2026 08:43

We need an FoI to find out who have them their legal advice.

sohard · 29/06/2026 08:46

RoyalCorgi · 29/06/2026 08:17

It's remarkable that they continue to do this both after the Supreme Court ruling which declared it illegal and after a young trans-identifying woman was raped in an all-male ward in a mental health trust in South London.

The only possible conclusion you can draw from this is that either these people are completely insane or that they want women to be raped and they want their trust to be dragged through expensive litigation in the courts.

The conclusion I draw from it is that they knew they had to update it and thought they were doing the right thing by taking legal advice on it. It’s whoever gave them the legal advice that we need to know.

The NHS badly needs some guidance from the top in this area. It’s absolutely crazy that every trust is being left to their own devices to sort this out.

Ramblingnamechanger · 29/06/2026 11:49

Well it isn’t going to come from this government who remain in thrall. The rules are perfectly clear but are not being followed. The side rooms off women’s wards are for women. Men should be put in the side rooms off the men’s wards if they need to be isolated. Thats it.

TheThirteenthFairy · 29/06/2026 11:58

sparklyblueberry2 · 28/06/2026 22:26

Generally in these situations a single side room will always be allocated, stops any arguments. This is with the exception of A&E, ITU and CCU where clinical acuity is more important.

If a bloke's in a single side room in the women's, then it can be a single side room in the men's - and if not, why not?

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