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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Guardian: weaponised emotional blackmail from 14yo 'trans' athlete

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teawamutu · 17/06/2026 17:40

The Guardian's rearguard action on reality continues. Apparently the problem is not the parents and authorities who conspired to lie to this boy, coddle his delusions, disadvantage all girls around him in the service of his own wishful thinking etc etc etc: it's definitely the people who pointed it out:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/17/trans-athlete-no-one-should-face-vicious-attacks

I am prepared to feel a little sorry for the kid, who couldn't have been exposed like this if the useful idiots around him had done their fucking jobs. But the Grauniad can fuck off with the tired 'beee kiiiind' shit as a solution. Been there, binned the t-shirt. We want our shit back.

I’m a 14-year-old trans athlete. No one should face the vicious attacks I have faced | Lina Haaga

People understand gender differently, and I was taught to respect all ideas. But the vitriol I recently experienced was not a healthy debate

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/17/trans-athlete-no-one-should-face-vicious-attacks

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BezMills · 20/06/2026 10:35

The idea of some kind of brain and/or endocrine test to backup cross-sex gender feelings is often floated as if such a thing, should it exist, would be a benefit to people with cross-sex gender identities. I rather doubt it, quite the opposite is my guess.

Men who purport to want such a thing to validate their feelings, would obviously be pretty sad when it came up with "bog standard straight bloke"

DeanElderberry · 20/06/2026 10:41

"bog standard straight bloke" with naff taste

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 10:46

BezMills · 20/06/2026 10:35

The idea of some kind of brain and/or endocrine test to backup cross-sex gender feelings is often floated as if such a thing, should it exist, would be a benefit to people with cross-sex gender identities. I rather doubt it, quite the opposite is my guess.

Men who purport to want such a thing to validate their feelings, would obviously be pretty sad when it came up with "bog standard straight bloke"

Yes I think it was “Translucent” who floated the idea of some groundbreaking science they said they had access to (sceptical on that, but moot point because it was never released) then had to swiftly backtrack due to TRA outrage (led by Katie Montgomerie ISTR) that at least some of their number might be invalidated by this transmedicalist approach, because a woman is anyone who says they are, right?

TheKeatingFive · 20/06/2026 10:51

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 10:46

Yes I think it was “Translucent” who floated the idea of some groundbreaking science they said they had access to (sceptical on that, but moot point because it was never released) then had to swiftly backtrack due to TRA outrage (led by Katie Montgomerie ISTR) that at least some of their number might be invalidated by this transmedicalist approach, because a woman is anyone who says they are, right?

I was reminded of that little incident too (though you are much more on top of the details!)

Ultimately most of them know they aren't 'really' women and in many cases it's just a fetish. This would blow their cover completely.

EvieBB · 21/06/2026 00:33

GriseldaandMike · 19/06/2026 23:58

I can't and don't want to speak for everyone, but most gender critical women would be happy with male, female and gender neutral spaces for trans people, (and the allies who are more than happy to share, and perhaps parents out with opposite sex children of an age where you don't want to send them alone but don't want to take them into the wrong sex facilities either etc).

The people who are not happy with this solution are some trans people and trans right activists. Despite what you will hear we don't hate trans people, or want them dead, we just don't believe people can change sex or that there is something called gender that is more important than sex when it comes to separating humans into groups.

Thanks :)

EvieBB · 21/06/2026 00:38

murasaki · 20/06/2026 00:37

Evie, I think many of us started in the be kind camp, I know I did.

Then I couldn't believe there had to be a case to permit one not to believe in trans ideology, or to define the word woman, started following the tribunals live, where women had been hounded from their jobs, and were punished for not wanting to undress in front of men in NHS staff changing rooms, read the sports data, saw Angela Carini get punched in the face at the Olympics by a man, saw the pictures of the bottles of piss, the placards threatening violence, and that the only good terf is a dead terf, the lack of a single woman only rape crisis centre in Brighton, having a man in a dress say rape victims should reframe their trauma if they didn't want to be in a counselling session with a TiM, the vexatious lawsuits, and....

Well, here we are.

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That's horrendous. Thanks for sharing.

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