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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Judge Nicholas Rowland

129 replies

TonTonMacoute · 25/05/2026 22:32

Must never be allowed to preside over a trial involving rape or sexual assault ever again.

This is an interesting article, and looks at sentencing guidelines and other complexities, but please don't let more victims suffer his complete lack of any empathy towards female victims.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/a653d1ed-e178-41a7-bb03-3d433a704520?shareToken=b714a3cc871c7c657515b6594349108e

Why did a judge spare teenage rapists from custody?

The community sentences handed down by Judge Nicholas Rowland in the Fordingbridge case have provoked an outcry, but guidelines treat prison as a last resort

https://www.thetimes.com/article/a653d1ed-e178-41a7-bb03-3d433a704520?shareToken=b714a3cc871c7c657515b6594349108e

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Mischance · 02/07/2026 21:27

It is said that the original judge was trying to follow the guidelines, in which case how is it that the court of appeal (presumably following the same guidelines) has come to such a different conclusion? Either something is wrong with the guidelines, or something is wrong with the original judge.

Being young and of low intellectual capacity might help us to understand someone's actions, but it does not make them any less dangerous to those around them, and the principle of protection of the public should hold good.

Someone should be talking to the original judge about this error of judgement and the proper processes followed to deal with this.

NotNatacha · 02/07/2026 21:41

Raquelos · 02/07/2026 20:35

I was wondering that too. This is what Claude AI came up with:

Because Boy X and Boy Y were given custodial sentences of four years for rape, they're automatically placed on the sex offenders register with an indefinite notification period, since sentences of 30 months or more trigger lifelong registration. In practice, this means that for the rest of their lives, they must:

  • Register with the police within 3 days of conviction/release, giving their name, address, date of birth, and National Insurance number
  • Notify the police of any change of address, and re-confirm their details annually
  • Notify police at least 7 days before any foreign travel of 8+ days, providing travel dates and destinations
  • Report certain other changes in circumstances (e.g., living with children, changing their name)

Failing to comply is itself a criminal offence, punishable by up to 5 years in prison.

Edited

That’s helpful, thank you.

A general question:
I wonder how diligently people who don’t have a settled/fixed home keep informing police of their change of address.

GreenCandleWax · 03/07/2026 22:44

WearyAuldWumman · 02/07/2026 19:16

In a case that I've already mentioned, a local boy got a short sentence for a crime he committed at 16, since it was a 'first offence' and he pled guilty to the lesser crime of sexual assault. His rape victim was 6 yrs old.

Only after his second crime was he incarcerated in an institution for the criminally insane sine die. (His intelligence was extremely low.)

The problem that we seem to have is that the courts take 'first offence' as a mitigating factor for even the most serious crimes.

Isn't this was what J K Rowling called out about a case in Scotland a few months ago. A man of 24 was charged with rape that he carried out as a minor some years earlier. but did not get a custodial sentence. JK said of rape in Scotland: "The first one is free".

WearyAuldWumman · 04/07/2026 16:54

GreenCandleWax · 03/07/2026 22:44

Isn't this was what J K Rowling called out about a case in Scotland a few months ago. A man of 24 was charged with rape that he carried out as a minor some years earlier. but did not get a custodial sentence. JK said of rape in Scotland: "The first one is free".

That case was particularly terrible and an example of what is being allowed today.

At one point, being over 21 would have meant a prison sentence but Scottish courts are now treating those under the age of 25 as not being responsible for their actions.

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