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Pain of silent treatment

67 replies

Hotterthanthesun · Today 14:25

Name changed for this post. I’ll start by saying I’ve read enough similar posts in the past that I know responses will probably be ‘this is abuse’, or that ‘I should leave’ and I’m prepared for that. I’m really only writing this as I feel so lonely and utterly miserable, and can’t talk to many people IRL and could do with getting out of my head and written down.

Following a falling out on Monday morning, my husband is giving me the silent treatment. We are now on day 4 and I don’t know how I’ll cope if it goes on much longer. This isn’t new behaviour, but it never gets easier to deal with. If it was me advising someone else I’d tell them to try and talk to him, reason with him, explain how it’s making you feel, however I just can’t as I know it will get worse or potentially prolong this episode.

On day 1 I matched his behaviour and just went about my business, kept myself busy and generally avoided him, but I always feel that I’m stooping to his level, and that it makes the atmosphere even worse. I’ve now switched to being polite, reasonable, pretending to be cheery when around him (then being in tears as soon as I’m alone) trying to make everyday conversation etc, to no avail. I feel as if the man I love and who says he loves me, hates me. It is honestly one of the worst feelings in the world. If you’ve never experienced it, it’s so hard to explain - it makes me feel hyper-conscious of my actions, but at the same time I just want to completely disappear. I walked down the street earlier and was just wishing I was invisible as I felt so vulnerable. Not sure if that makes any sense.

I know you won’t believe it, but when he isn’t being like this, he has so many fantastic qualities (hence why I married him) and we have a great life and loads of fun, run a business together and feel solid. I honestly don’t think I want to end my marriage, but at times like this he feels like a very cruel stranger.

The general consensus is that this type of behaviour is about control, but I don’t know if I believe that in our case. He freely admits he has big problems with expressing emotion or understanding others emotions (he calls himself an emotional robot). He had a terrible childhood and very damaging relationship with his (now deceased) parents. I’ve suggested therapy several times and he says he thinks he is so damaged he is beyond help. I really do believe that this behaviour stems from not having any emotional tools to deal with expressing any kind of negative feeling. He just retreats into himself and shuts down. That doesn’t make it OK though.

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Inprep · Today 14:26

This sounds absolutely awful. Just… depressing really.

Is it just you and him?

Inprep · Today 14:28

Do you have any close friends or family? If you do, tell them what you’ve told mumsnet.

He’s a dick. He sounds awful. You and him sound very unhappy and the house sounds like a very dark place to be.

There’s a better life for you

MissMarplesGoddaughter · Today 14:28

Please stop dancing to this man’s tune. He won’t change, all you can do is decide whether or not you want this behaviour to be the backdrop to the rest of your life……

Hotterthanthesun · Today 14:31

Inprep · Today 14:26

This sounds absolutely awful. Just… depressing really.

Is it just you and him?

Yes, no children to worry about being in this situation.

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Lizzbear · Today 14:33

Op Ive been there. My husband used to go silent after a row. Sometimes for days. Im afraid to say that after a couple of days, I would end up screaming at him, which would shock him into talking about it until it was resolved. If he did it it now, I’d leave until he started communicating. Because our child is grown and has left home.
it is cruel behaviour x

StrawberryWater · Today 14:33

Tell him you're done a d the relationship is over already. He's horrible.

Allthegoodhorses · Today 14:33

Do you have children? I would be so incensed by this I think I would book myself into a hotel, block him on my phone and disappear for a few days. It’s totally unforgivable behaviour.

JetFlight · Today 14:38

So he’s decided to punish you for a disagreement 4 days ago.
He sounds horrible. You can’t fix him. You have to disengage and get on with your own life.

Inprep · Today 14:39

Allthegoodhorses · Today 14:33

Do you have children? I would be so incensed by this I think I would book myself into a hotel, block him on my phone and disappear for a few days. It’s totally unforgivable behaviour.

Then what?

Inprep · Today 14:40

Hotterthanthesun · Today 14:31

Yes, no children to worry about being in this situation.

Right then in that case…. You really do have the freedom to take a quick action on this. what’s the situation re finances?

Pumpkindoodles · Today 14:41

If it was me advising someone else I’d tell them to try and talk to him, reason with him, explain how it’s making you feel,

this would not be my advice. Dh tried to give me the silent treatment once. 1 hour in I asked him who tf he thought he was being so rude and disrespectful to me. If your dh has a problem he can use his big boy words and talk about it, and if he doesnt want to, he gets a bit of time (like half an hour!) to cool down then he needs to get over it. It’s so rude, it’s so disrespectful, I would not have someone punishing me in my own house and deciding the terms of our relationship whilst I tip toe around them and find myself being trained to shrink and obey them. I grew up with this from my parents and I absolutely will not stand for it now I’m an adult. I used to do it in relationships when I was a teenager, I needed to be told to get over myself, I wanted someone to grovel to me to make me feel better because I felt rejected and I couldn’t handle it. As soon as I was an adult and moved out I went to therapy and dealt with it. Don’t accept a pity party from him, it’s all well and good for him to decide he’s too damaged when you’re the one taking the brunt of that.

wheredidiputmyphone · Today 14:43

II had this with my ex husband. I hated it. It’s a form of coercive control. I used to get really upset and shout and try to force him to talk - it didn’t stop him so I started ignoring it by going out shopping or for a walk. Tell him to grow up and stop his sulking and ditch him!!

Hotterthanthesun · Today 14:43

JetFlight · Today 14:38

So he’s decided to punish you for a disagreement 4 days ago.
He sounds horrible. You can’t fix him. You have to disengage and get on with your own life.

I'm not sure he's decided; it feels more like something that just happens autmatically - if something happens like it did on Monday, I can instantly see the shutters come down and know he is shutting down emotionally. It's like an instinct to him.

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Hotterthanthesun · Today 14:44

Inprep · Today 14:40

Right then in that case…. You really do have the freedom to take a quick action on this. what’s the situation re finances?

Complicated. We own a business together.

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Bonkers1966 · Today 14:47

Just because you own a business together doesn't mean you have to stay married to each other. He sounds vile. I hope you are in therapy because you need it badly.

Hotterthanthesun · Today 14:48

Bonkers1966 · Today 14:47

Just because you own a business together doesn't mean you have to stay married to each other. He sounds vile. I hope you are in therapy because you need it badly.

Can't afford therapy!

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Sinescure · Today 14:48

So he thinks he's so damaged he's beyond help, but it's okay for you to have to deal with him? If you want a spouse, you don't get to just not try.

Sinescure · Today 14:50

On day 1 I matched his behaviour and just went about my business, kept myself busy and generally avoided him, but I always feel that I’m stooping to his level, and that it makes the atmosphere even worse. I’ve now switched to being polite, reasonable, pretending to be cheery when around him (then being in tears as soon as I’m alone) trying to make everyday conversation etc, to no avail.

This shit will slowly kill your emotional stability and sense of self until you have nothing left. Not worth it for any man. Trust me.

Hotterthanthesun · Today 14:51

StrawberryWater · Today 14:33

Tell him you're done a d the relationship is over already. He's horrible.

Things really aren't that simple, not from where I'm sitting anyway.

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Sparkletastic · Today 14:52

I wouldn’t advise anyone to try and reason with the perpetrator of this behaviour. Like a PP my DH has tried to pull this shit on me (his aged mother still uses it as a tactic on him). I made it clear long ago that I absolutely would not stand for it and that I would divorce him if it continued. You have to be able to say that and mean it if you want to continue in this relationship. He is doing such damage to your self esteem and mental health so think seriously about an exit plan, which may include finding a job and ceasing to work in the shared business.

Firefly100 · Today 14:52

I know it is easy to say but I really couldn't put up with this. What I absolutely would not do is 'try to talk to him and reason with him'. The silent treatment only works if the other person tries to talk to you and reason with you.
I would start by saying to him just once that this treatment is not acceptable and unless he stops it there will be consequences. If he has a problem he has to talk about it. Then the next steps depends upon your situation but there MUST be consequences.
eg if it is just you and him, I'm afraid he would get the silent treatment back and after about a month I would organise to live elsewhere for a period and move out. Presumably he will consider speaking to me when I just don't come home. I would refuse to move back in unless he promises never to do it again and understands if he breaks that promise, he understands I will be leaving permanently. I'd probably make him wait the 3 months or however long I had planned to move out before I came back too.
If you have children and/or your own home, after a month I think I would get estate agents in to value the house. Then either begin the steps to get it ready for sale or in writing make him an offer to buy him out as otherwise you are going to force the sale. Again, hopefully he will speak to me to ask me what the hell I am doing. Again, the answer would be I told him will not live like this so I am preparing to sell up and live separately. Again, he needs to promise never to do it again and understand I will be moving out if he fails to keep that promise.
He may consider himself so damaged he is beyond help but bluntly, firstly that is not my fault (or god forbid my childrens) so if that truly is the case then he is too damaged for a cohabiting relationship. Or secondly, I am afraid I just don't believe him. I bet he manages to avoid giving his boss the silent treatment at work. This is selective and you are his victim of choice.
I'm going to take you at your word that you want to remain a couple so living in separate homes, he can retreat to his home when he is performing the silent treatment so at least no one else is impacted. You can maintain your relationship and live separately if genuinely this is the only issue. He can then come and stay with his family when he is able to communicate like an adult.

Hotterthanthesun · Today 14:53

Sparkletastic · Today 14:52

I wouldn’t advise anyone to try and reason with the perpetrator of this behaviour. Like a PP my DH has tried to pull this shit on me (his aged mother still uses it as a tactic on him). I made it clear long ago that I absolutely would not stand for it and that I would divorce him if it continued. You have to be able to say that and mean it if you want to continue in this relationship. He is doing such damage to your self esteem and mental health so think seriously about an exit plan, which may include finding a job and ceasing to work in the shared business.

Thank you. I do actually have my own job and income, but we jointly own the business.

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Sparkletastic · Today 14:55

And if the business isn’t generating enough for you to afford therapy then perhaps a career change would be wise for other reasons, not least planning for your pension and retirement.

Sparkletastic · Today 14:55

Ah cross posted with you OP. That sounds more hopeful then?

Isitevensummer · Today 14:59

whether he wants therapy for himself (and being too damaged is bs) this is unacceptable in a relationship. He might struggle with it, but if you are old enough to be married, you are old enough to learn how to make the relationship work without damaging the other person. I am sympathetic to his struggles, but he knows he's hurting you and that hasn't been enough to motivate him to action. That's likely to be a fear response, but he can't stay stuck like that.

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