Which taxes should Burnham put up?

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It seems pretty clear that in the Autumn we are in for another massive tax rising budget. Starmer has done of the ground work to show what we need to spend and how there isn't any money, I'm sure the "blackholes" were co-ordinated with the new team for messaging. Labour don't have it in them to cut the welfare bill and to be fair the Tories didn't either - so I can't see that changing.

Which taxes would up increase to fund the country properly?

Personally I'd go the easy route and put 1 or 2p on the basic rate of income tax. It would break the manifesto but one short sharp initiative has got to be better than death by a thousand small increases.

I think the care proposals of getting rid of inheritance tax and replacing it with a 10% charge on everyone is very sensible.

Equalising income tax and capital gains tax seems an easy win as well.

Sounds fair as long as CGT is index linked. Also pip should be means tested.

Stop paying means tested benefits to those with 100s of 1000s in home equity. Not right that low income earners pay more to cover costs for those with ridiculous levels of home £s equity. A charge on the property is needed. Savers can only have £16k in savings, asset holders can live in a £16m+ property and still qualify. Crazy.

Means test attendance allowance

What benefits should he reduce? Why should the earners always take the pain.

Chop spending on the lazy and feckless rather than putting taxes up on the already heavily taxed productive.

Can’t just keep expecting those with the broadest shoulders to carry more… at some point the weight becomes unbearable

This! We need to encourage people to work more not less

Means test benefits. All of them.
Get rid of the pestilent boil on our economy that is the NHS. Other countries in Europe manage this without going back to the dark ages I think they could do it.
Get rid of anyone in any public sector job whose job title has equality or diversity in it anywhere.
Pay for the lion’s share of road repairs with more toll roads like every other functioning country.
Like fuck should I be paying higher tax for these things.

I can't see him reducing any benefits. His backbenchers will refuse and he is a bit of a people pleaser. We need the services funded. Personally I'd rather see income tax increase than further cuts to school which is what Starmer set out in the defense plan.

It is going to be interesting. He has committed to delivering the manifesto, so no tax rises. We all know they are required though, so maybe he will have the balls to actually make some sensible changes.

Tax rises without reform are pointless. It will all get swallowed up by the NHS and Welfare - both desperate for reform.

I am already going to pay another 2% on my savings from next year. If I am paying more I want to see less money pissed away.

Not a tax but I’d like to see errant lazy fathers (okay some mothers too but we know it’s mostly fathers) pursued to be forced to pay maintenance towards their offspring instead of relying on tax payers money (usually the resident parent who will be working and claiming benefits too - absolutely no issue with that AT ALL before someone comes for me, just think when 2 parents are alive and working they should both be held accountable). And I mean more than the token £5 a week or whatever pathetic token gesture some parents receive) Just think of the amount of money that would relieve on the monthly benefits bill.

Probably the interpretation of Reeves through that no tax rises was specifically Income Tax, VAT etc. He has said he thinks there is wiggle room and that is unlikely to be down.

That would seem to be a win win. No idea why no Government has tackled that before.

Raising taxes before dealing with waste and inefficiency in public spending is putting the cart before the horse.

Fundamentally, the country is a business and, like any business, when times are tight, you don’t need to just look at increasing revenue, you also need to reduce cost.
I would agree with 1p on income tax, rather than all this tinkering about, but to make it palatable to the general public, there also needs to be efficiencies. Means testing benefits would be a start. Why should CB be means tested but not much else?
And, if they align CGT with income tax they need to do something with entrepreneurs tax relief. We need businesses to drive growth.

And a material reintroduction/enhancement of entrepreneurs relief.

Business owners will leave in droves if CGT is equalised with income tax.

We're been cutting for efficiencies for years and years. At some point more efficient = unable to cope. I think schools are good example we're cut and cut and now its falling apart - but yet more cuts are already planned.

But CMS received isn’t taken into account for benefits. So whilst I agree with you that people (men) shouldn’t be able to fuck off and pay nothing for their children, and forcing them to pay would be the right thing to do, it won’t affect benefits.

Maybe a small number of people wouldn’t bother applying for benefits in the first place if they received adequate CMS. But overall I doubt it would make much difference.

I'd hope that funding care from a 10% level would reduce the pressure on council budget so much that councll could reduce or at least properly fund all the other services that struggle like SEN.

Keep the NHS but charge for missed appointments.

There is a much that can be done to take the strain off of the NHS.

I would be here for policies that incentivise people and their children being healthier. I don't think it is fair for tax payers to pick up the tab for poor choices.

Wasn’t VAT on private school fees meant to help with that?
I’ve no skin in that particular game but wasn’t it mean to increase funding for schools? So why are they now planning cuts for schools?

Yet LA’s are paying £50k - £70k per pupil per year on SEN provision. With the staff paid less than teachers pay scale. It’s nuts.

Means test benefits.

Yet LA’s are paying £50k - £70k per pupil per year on SEN provision. With the staff paid less than teachers pay scale. It’s nuts.

Means test benefits.

I agree there is so much that could be do no prevention that would save a fortune in the long term.