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Change law to kick out Rochdale rapist, No 10 urged

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Twiglets1 · 03/07/2026 07:10

Reported in The Telegraph that Labour is facing mounting pressure to change immigration laws immediately so that a child rapist freed from jail can be deported.

Shabir Ahmed, 73, was sentenced to more than 20 years in jail after being convicted of 30 child rape offences as part of the Rochdale grooming gang.

But on Thursday, the Pakistan-born rapist was released after serving 14 years.

Britain stripped him of his citizenship, but cannot currently deport him because of protections granted to Commonwealth immigrants such as Ahmed under the Immigration Act 1971.

On Thursday, Downing Street said the Prime Minister had asked Shabana Mahmood, the Home Secretary, to “consider what can be done” to deport Ahmed, describing his case as “particularly heinous”.

It comes after Andy Burnham, expected to succeed Sir Keir Starmer as prime minister, also vowed to “review all options” to deport the "vile criminal".

The amendment to Ms Mahmood’s immigration bill will propose rewriting the 1971 act to permit the removal of serious criminals such as Ahmed.

However, even if an amendment were to pass, two senior Pakistani government officials told The Telegraph that the country would not accept Ahmed back because he renounced his Pakistani citizenship “several decades ago”.

They added that he posed a danger to Pakistani children.

If their claim is correct, it places Ahmed in the same situation as two other freed Pakistani ringleaders of the Rochdale grooming gang whom Pakistan has refused to take back.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/07/02/deport-foreign-born-child-rapists-demand-labour-mps/

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faithfultoGeorgeMichael · 03/07/2026 07:16

They do not need to change the law to keep him locked up, they just need to treat these men as what they are - members of organised trafficking gangs, They are all involved in child rape, human trafficking, prostitution of children and importing and selling drugs. Why are they treated like ignorant peasants not the organised criminal gangs they are? These are wealthy men, they own property and have 'control' of significant areas of the UK.

Mexican cartels are not called "catholic groomers/addicts" this is nothing to do with religion and had EVERYTHING to do with the imbecility of the UK Police and state in treating these men as they have. Its caused racism, division in communities and no other criminal gangs are treated this way, it beggars belief.

Kidnap and false imprisonment can carry a life sentence. Lock these dangerous criminals up for the maximum time and keep all children safe from them.

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2026 07:17

Grooming gangs scandal over the years:

May 8 2012, Nine found guilty in Rochdale and Oldham
First grooming-gang trials of men from Rochdale and Oldham result in nine convictions for participation in a child sexual exploitation ring.

Aug 26 2014, Jay report published
Prof Alexis Jay publishes report on child sexual exploitation in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013. Baroness May announces a public inquiry into child abuse – the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse.

Oct 19 2018,Twenty convicted in Huddersfield case
Twenty men, mainly of Pakistani origin, who were part of the Huddersfield child sex abuse ring are convicted of 120 rape and abuse offences against 15 girls, and sentenced to a total of 221 years.

Jan 14 2020,Manchester Police Chief Constable apologises
Greater Manchester Police Chief Constable Ian Hopkins apologises to the children abused “in plain sight” by the grooming gangs his officers failed to bring to justice.

Oct 4 2023, Braverman criticised for singling out group
A Grooming Gangs Taskforce is set up by Rishi Sunak, but Suella Braverman comes under fire after IPSO orders a newspaper to publish a correction to an opinion piece written by the then home secretary, in which she said UK child grooming gangs were "almost all British-Pakistani men".

Jan 3 2025, Musk calls Phillips 'rape genocide apologist'
Elon Musk brands Jess Phillips a “rape genocide apologist” on X.

Jan 8 2025,Labour votes down national grooming inquiry
Labour votes down calls from Kemi Badenoch to begin a national grooming inquiry. On Jan 16, Yvette Cooper, the Home Secretary, says the Government will put up £5m to support five initial local inquiries modelled on the judge-led inquiry into grooming gangs in Telford.

April 9 2025, Phillips relents on local council funding
Ms Phillips announces that “following feedback”, the Government would adopt a “flexible approach” where money would be available for local councils to use as they wished to support grooming gang work.

May 11 2025, Cooper refuses to rule out national inquiry
Ms Cooper refuses to rule out a national inquiry into the grooming gangs scandal.

June 14 2025, Starmer caves in to national inquiry demands
Sir Keir Starmer caves to demands to begin a national inquiry into the scandal.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/07/02/deport-foreign-born-child-rapists-demand-labour-mps/

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Twiglets1 · 03/07/2026 07:17

Duplicate post.

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faithfultoGeorgeMichael · 03/07/2026 07:20

This started in the late 70s, and by the 90s Rotherham care home staff were reporting children missing daily.
It has been going on in Rochdale since the 80s or earlier.

lljkk · 03/07/2026 07:22

I bet the young women of Pakistan are delighted at this prospect.

JoyousOpalLemur · 03/07/2026 07:23

That 1971 law needs to be changed.

Kick him out.

Kick all these foreign child rapists out.

JoyousOpalLemur · 03/07/2026 07:24

lljkk · 03/07/2026 07:22

I bet the young women of Pakistan are delighted at this prospect.

Many of them have been recorded saying they only target white girls.

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2026 07:25

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · 03/07/2026 07:16

They do not need to change the law to keep him locked up, they just need to treat these men as what they are - members of organised trafficking gangs, They are all involved in child rape, human trafficking, prostitution of children and importing and selling drugs. Why are they treated like ignorant peasants not the organised criminal gangs they are? These are wealthy men, they own property and have 'control' of significant areas of the UK.

Mexican cartels are not called "catholic groomers/addicts" this is nothing to do with religion and had EVERYTHING to do with the imbecility of the UK Police and state in treating these men as they have. Its caused racism, division in communities and no other criminal gangs are treated this way, it beggars belief.

Kidnap and false imprisonment can carry a life sentence. Lock these dangerous criminals up for the maximum time and keep all children safe from them.

I don't really understand why Ahmed was released after serving 14 years, given that he was sentenced to more than 20 years in jail and was convicted of 30 child rape offences.

Now we have a problem of what to do with him when he could have been safely locked up for another 6 years (given that he's already 73, that could be significant).

I can understand Pakistan's position in potentially not accepting his deportation, given that he moved to Britain as a boy and renounced his Pakistani citizenship “several decades ago”.

A senior Pakistani government source said, “Pakistan has maintained that someone who is not a Pakistani national cannot be allowed or accepted inside the country. Ahmed is considered a serious safeguarding risk because of his criminal past in the UK.

“How can someone with his criminality be deemed safe in a country like Pakistan? He poses as much danger to children in Pakistan as he would anywhere else".

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Shedmistress · 03/07/2026 07:26

Yet Shamima Begum who was born in the UK had her citizenship revoked. And was kept out of the UK.

They could find a way if they wanted to.

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2026 07:27

Shedmistress · 03/07/2026 07:26

Yet Shamima Begum who was born in the UK had her citizenship revoked. And was kept out of the UK.

They could find a way if they wanted to.

Slightly easier with her though in that she wasn't actually living in the UK when they revoked her citizenship.

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Shedmistress · 03/07/2026 07:28

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2026 07:27

Slightly easier with her though in that she wasn't actually living in the UK when they revoked her citizenship.

He WAS living in prison, so could easily have been popped on a plane.

Serenity75 · 03/07/2026 07:28

But if Pakistan won’t take this person (and why should they) where would you send him?

Meadowfinch · 03/07/2026 07:35

Let's hope the govt finds a way. Then we can kick out every foreign rapist, child abuser and murderer.

Perhaps we could just inter them all permanently on an uninhabited island somewhere. The UK must have a bleak rocky outcrop left over from the empire that would make a suitable home.

Ihateboris · 03/07/2026 07:40

If the law can be changed so quickly to allow pubs to open until 5am for the football, why can't they change this antiquated law so this monster can be sent back to Pakistan?

LondonKara · 03/07/2026 07:41

JoyousOpalLemur · 03/07/2026 07:24

Many of them have been recorded saying they only target white girls.

Bullshit. That's something they say so they don't lose face (as they see it) in the community. Of course they will target any girl they can get away with.

I don't support removal of full citizenship, I think at that point a individual has become "our" problem. Different if they are in the process of seeking asylum.or citizenship.

EasternStandard · 03/07/2026 07:43

They can change the law but will still have to get Pakistan to take him.

Listening to a legal person now the law change is easier than getting Pakistan to say yes.

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2026 07:43

Shedmistress · 03/07/2026 07:28

He WAS living in prison, so could easily have been popped on a plane.

Not so easy because Pakistan have said they wouldn’t accept him. He is a British citizen now not dual nationality unfortunately.

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JoyousOpalLemur · 03/07/2026 07:44

LondonKara · 03/07/2026 07:41

Bullshit. That's something they say so they don't lose face (as they see it) in the community. Of course they will target any girl they can get away with.

I don't support removal of full citizenship, I think at that point a individual has become "our" problem. Different if they are in the process of seeking asylum.or citizenship.

You don't understand the mentality of Pakistani grooming gangs

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2026 07:45

Serenity75 · 03/07/2026 07:28

But if Pakistan won’t take this person (and why should they) where would you send him?

There is nowhere to send him. Which is why I think he should have at least stayed in prison for his maximum term of 20 years.

He is not safe for little girls wherever he is.

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ChefsKisser · 03/07/2026 07:45

Put him on a boat and push him out to sea for all I care.

we are so bloody soft on everyone in this country. This is a serious convicted rapist. Why did we release him early?

Ihateboris · 03/07/2026 07:47

ChefsKisser · 03/07/2026 07:45

Put him on a boat and push him out to sea for all I care.

we are so bloody soft on everyone in this country. This is a serious convicted rapist. Why did we release him early?

That's what I want to know? He's a rapist. If he'd committed rape in Pakistan he would have received the death penalty. Rape in the uk and you are released early. What the fuck. My blood is boiling.

KindPinkEagle · 03/07/2026 07:48

Ihateboris · 03/07/2026 07:40

If the law can be changed so quickly to allow pubs to open until 5am for the football, why can't they change this antiquated law so this monster can be sent back to Pakistan?

They haven't changed the licensing laws.

The law should be changed to kick him out though.

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2026 07:49

That is what I would like the government to explain- why this monster was released early when they knew he couldn’t be deported to Pakistan and would be a problem for the rest of his life to house safely.

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Ihateboris · 03/07/2026 07:50

KindPinkEagle · 03/07/2026 07:48

They haven't changed the licensing laws.

The law should be changed to kick him out though.

Apologies...I misunderstood. I thought pubs had been given permission to extend their opening hours. It's too early in the morning and I've not had my coffee yet 🙃

bozo123 · 03/07/2026 07:50

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2026 07:25

I don't really understand why Ahmed was released after serving 14 years, given that he was sentenced to more than 20 years in jail and was convicted of 30 child rape offences.

Now we have a problem of what to do with him when he could have been safely locked up for another 6 years (given that he's already 73, that could be significant).

I can understand Pakistan's position in potentially not accepting his deportation, given that he moved to Britain as a boy and renounced his Pakistani citizenship “several decades ago”.

A senior Pakistani government source said, “Pakistan has maintained that someone who is not a Pakistani national cannot be allowed or accepted inside the country. Ahmed is considered a serious safeguarding risk because of his criminal past in the UK.

“How can someone with his criminality be deemed safe in a country like Pakistan? He poses as much danger to children in Pakistan as he would anywhere else".

Absolutely. If he’s a danger he should be locked up not set free abroad to prey on girls there.

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