Being tailgated (new driver)

[AncientWasp]

Recently passed and got a hatchback as that's all I need. I stick to the speed limit but I'm finding a lot of people don't (I'm told some people memorise where the speed cameras are?) But what I'm getting annoyed at is almost always having someone (men) in SUVs or vans driving about an inch away from me, seen a few shaking their head, throwing their hands up etc.
I let them overtake where possible, but obviously not always safe. Is this something I just have to put up with? Highly doubt they'd be doing it if I were male and in an SUV.

Yanbu they are. You should keep a car and a half length in front of you and it will be their fault if they go.into.you at the back.

So many impatient selfish people around. Just slow down. Alot of people are driving far too fast.

Do you know what P plates are? There for new drivers so hopefully people know they're new and give them some grace. Nothing to do with speed limits.

It’s the other way round 😊

Always BMW drivers. I call them the arsehole mobiles

I'm not convinced if you are tailgating someone in a small car when you are in an SUV you can easily tell who is in front, both with the angle and the headrest.

Unless you put a big sticker on the back saying "I am a woman".

Anyway, I would just put P plates on.

I learnt to drive in my 30s. I hated this during lessons, but my instructor was there to keep me steady and not panic. He would often say ignore the arsehole behind you etc

As a new driver I would find it would affect me and Id be worried by it. A friend would say its better they are infront of uou than behind, so as you do let them past if you can.

The more experienced you become the less it will get to you. I mean you'll still see them, still call them arseholes but it wont affect you as much, more annoying than upsetting /concerning.

Dashcams - both me and my DH are looking to get them. We've witnessed so much bad/dangerous driving but dont have evidence to back it ip. My DSis was hit from behind (at slow speed thankfully) lad admitted fault but then changed his story so now its a he said she said situation She has already gotten a dashcam.

Slow down and don’t be intimidated. Refer in the wrong, not you.

That's how I was taught as well. I also got the 'if he goes into the back of you then it'll be his fault, don't worry' always stuck in my head because I'd rather someone didn't go into the back of me ta.

How does that work when you need to be checking your rear mirrors around every ten seconds? I hope you aren't driving around just looking ahead.

If you're hit from behind, it's always the car behind's fault. That's why scammers reverse into you and why you need to have a dashcam

Here's an insight into the mentality of these tailgaters, which I came across on FB last week. Some guy was asking how he could get the 70mph speed limiter removed from his (new to him) white van. The huge majority of replies either told him how to do it, or where to get it done, but even more they delighted in explaining why it was stupid, and unnecessary. The few who took the "Well, it's the maximum speed" were abused relentlessly.

This country has gone from basically law abiding, to fundamentally thinking not "what's right", but "what can I get away with." Driving us just the most obvious example of this, every single day.

Well done for following the law, OP, that's exactly what your new licence permits you to do, nothing more.

I actually found P plates helped with tailgaters when I first passed.

Apart from that, as pp have said I think the advice is to increase the distance between you and the car in front of you (so that if tailgater goes into the back of you, then you don't hit the next car).

Also pull over if you can do so safely. It's annoying though because it feels like it's rewarding their dick behaviour.

The problem is these days there is all stick and no carrot when it comes to speed limits.

The hard of thinking parrot the limit, as if 1 mph under the limit is safe, whereas 1 mph over it is unsafe.

The reality is that it is a sliding scale, not an absolute one.

I am all for 20 mph limits around urban areas. They make a lot of sense where I am yet the limits are still 30 mph.

Yet I think 70 mph is too low a limit for many main roads and we would be better off having a french style which varies depending on weather conditions (this of course makes the limit more interpretable, but maybe does highlight the fact that people should be driving to the conditions more rather than the limit and actually thinking about the speed they choose, which is the whole point).

You only have to look at the number of cars exceeding the limit on the motorway to realise a significant proportion of the population feel the same way.

Still, disagreeing with and maybe exceeding the limit and tailgating are to me two very separate things. I will not tailgate because I believe it's too dangerous, whereas exceeding the limit I think under certain circumstances can be fine.

I don't believe that someone tailgating at under the limit is driving in a safe way, although technically they are under the limit (they may get prosecuted for driving recklessly or with undue attention if an accident is caused).

If the government wants to reduce the accidents on major roads probably the one thing it could try to do is reduce the incidence of tailgating rather than focus on speeding. Of course doing this is harder, which is why to date they haven't done anything about it. But the technology exists.

I do tend to agree sadly. But also i have had some older (id say over 50's given how they look) women who are just as bad - and thats IN smaller cars.

We now have it down to 20 in the towns and villages up here, so our 40-30 is now 30-20.
To get to mine you take the 1st or last left....which one I take depends on the behavior of the person behind me. I do admit to getting a bit of glee doing 20 at 5pm through the village with someone RIGHT up behind me. Then I take a loooong careful turn into the road to mine (do actually have to as you cannot see down it until your AT it).

I did once have a range rover over take from a few cars back - came hoooring past me and 3 other cars who were doing the limit. He gave me the finger, so I gave his reg to the police 😂. I really CBA who I piss off anymore when it comes to driving.

In my younger days I have stopped dead and gotten out to confront tailgaiters before - I am aware how stupid that is.
Sometimes my kids like to take a picture - I make sure they put the flash on, so its clear its been taken - They have been known to give the middle finger out the back window as well. Best as a Fk off you weirdo sign one scrawled in their text book and held up.

Unless someone is dying, and your an emergency response vehicle there is no need!

They really shouldn’t be using a satnav for their speedo. God knows how accurate that is. OP could end up the girl racer unwittingly!

@AncientWasp Please do not follow the advice provided in this post. You need to keep checking your rear view and side mirrors, even if you have a tailgater!

While I know where they are coming from, the correct procedure is to lower your speed very slowly, to increase the gap between you and the car in front. If the car in front of you has to stop quickly you will be able to slow down slowly, rather than also having to slam on your breaks which will inevitably mean the tailgater crashing into the back of you.

Many, many people do not do the following, but it's in the highway code: that in dry conditions you should be at least 2 seconds behind the car in front. In wet weather 4 seconds and in snow at least 10 seconds.

Obviously as others have said, try not to let them put you off your driving, and move over/pull in somewhere to let them pass you as soon as you can

I’ve seen women driving large, powerful cars being tailgated too. Just ignore them, don’t give them any headspace, concentrate on your own driving.

As previously stated, Sat nav is more accurate than a car speedo.

True I passed my test in 1991 and drive about 35k miles each year. I don't give a flying fig about some creeping up my backside

I went to a 'naughty drivers course' with traffic police(caught doing 23 in 20 zone) and we were told if someone is tailgating you, best option is to slow down slightly.
Then they can either over take you, or if there is an accident from them travelling to close to you, then less risk of injury if they hit you at a slower speed and more time for them to stop.

This is absolutely what I do, and definitely only due to advice given on course, and absolutely nothing to do with being a stroppy mare 😂

Yes, it is more accurate, but we base our speed on satnav speed, we lose the contingency we once had. It means we drive much more on the edge of what is legal, and it's easier for speed to creep up and accidentally we are then speeding, risking a fine etc.

It's fine to use it instead, but we shouldn't be pushing other drivers to do so.

Like the driver on here previously, who was arguing that you don't get fined unless 10% over +1-3 (in a 30%), which isn't technically true, but that therefore a 30 actually means 34-36, which would be almost 40 on a speedometer.

It's risky, not just for safety, but for racking up points.

And also some people seem to be assuming that all satnavs show your speed, and / or that everyone uses a satnav at all times. I have one, but it doesn’t show speed, so I have no option other than to rely on the speedometer.

My reply was purely in response to the PP suggesting Sat nav is inaccurate.

As a new driver you are probably driving cautiously, don't let them push you into driving beyond your capabilities. 29 in a 30 limit is fine but there is a tolerance on the speed for prosecution so many people will be aiming for 32ish and anticipating a change in limit is common provided there isn't a camera or average speed check cameras. People also have dash cams etc which give more accurate speed info so they may be seeing you driving at a slower speed than you see on your speedo.

You may also be slowing earlier for junctions, taking longer into roundabouts, etc and people just have no patience.

And then there are the ones who just ignore speed limits altogether.

Your sat nav is not reliable. Do NOT use this to check your speed.

What does your car dash say?