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AIBU to wonder whether I should report an accidental offence?

186 replies

AccidentalCriminal · Yesterday 15:57

So I recently found out that I unknowingly and unwittingly broke the law last year.

No victim involved and I honestly and truly didn't know I'd done it.

Would you report yourself or just accept you got away with it?

A criminal conviction would destroy my career. But I also feel terrible that I've done something illegal.

WWYD?

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NorthCoast500 · Yesterday 16:24

AccidentalCriminal · Yesterday 16:21

No, everything went to my previous address and they convicted me in my absence. I didn't even know I had the speeding ticket that tipped me over tbe limit.

You cannot be the only person this has happened to!

Bristolandlazy · Yesterday 16:24

Go straight to jail

AccidentalCriminal · Yesterday 16:26

NorthCoast500 · Yesterday 16:24

You cannot be the only person this has happened to!

Probably not, but I think it's also an offence in itself that I didn't change the addresses on my driving licence or car V5!!

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LavenderOregano · Yesterday 16:26

AccidentalCriminal · Yesterday 16:21

No, everything went to my previous address and they convicted me in my absence. I didn't even know I had the speeding ticket that tipped me over tbe limit.

You’ll also have an unpaid fine for the underlying offence then, which is still enforceable I’m afraid.

Divebar2021 · Yesterday 16:27

So your car wasn’t registered at the new address and you didn’t divert your post. Was your insurance showing the correct address …. Although presumably your insurance was invalid if you were driving while banned.

AccidentalCriminal · Yesterday 16:28

Divebar2021 · Yesterday 16:27

So your car wasn’t registered at the new address and you didn’t divert your post. Was your insurance showing the correct address …. Although presumably your insurance was invalid if you were driving while banned.

My insurance had the correct address, it's one I did remember to change.

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AccidentalCriminal · Yesterday 16:29

LavenderOregano · Yesterday 16:26

You’ll also have an unpaid fine for the underlying offence then, which is still enforceable I’m afraid.

I have no issues paying a fine- how will I know I owe it or where to pay it?

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GreenWheat · Yesterday 16:30

There's no point reporting yourself now, it has passed and nobody was injured or wronged while you did it. But definitely stop speeding.

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Ineffable23 · Yesterday 16:30

I mean I wouldn't do anything about that now, but remember you will need to inform your insurers at some point and somehow or you'll be committing insurance fraud and I dunno how that works when you drove throughout the ban.

SilenceInside · Yesterday 16:31

It would be more sensible to concentrate making sure that everything is now correct with your driving licence, any unpaid fines, insurance etc. Also that you have systems in place to manage all of these things better despite your ADHD.

AccidentalCriminal · Yesterday 16:31

GreenWheat · Yesterday 16:30

There's no point reporting yourself now, it has passed and nobody was injured or wronged while you did it. But definitely stop speeding.

Yes, I definitely will.

It wasn't multiple speeding tickets, I got 6 points for not supplying driver details (as the ticket went to my old address), 3 points for the speeding and had 3 points from a couple of years ago.

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AccidentalCriminal · Yesterday 16:33

Ineffable23 · Yesterday 16:30

I mean I wouldn't do anything about that now, but remember you will need to inform your insurers at some point and somehow or you'll be committing insurance fraud and I dunno how that works when you drove throughout the ban.

I have a new car and new insurance since getting my licence back. (Coincidentally) I disclosed the prior ban to the new insurers.

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LavenderOregano · Yesterday 16:35

Once you update you docs with the DVLA they’re likely to chase you for the fine. It will be hefty as it’s been unpaid so long.

You might want to talk to a solicitor about how to regularise the position now without confessing to driving while banned. It’s an imprisonable offence so iI’d do whatever you can to avoid revealing this.

What was the date of the conviction? When was the speeding offence?

Imlyingandthatsthetruth · Yesterday 16:41

AccidentalCriminal · Yesterday 16:33

I have a new car and new insurance since getting my licence back. (Coincidentally) I disclosed the prior ban to the new insurers.

Now I'm confused. Prior ban? So... You've had more than one? Regardless, I don't get how the insurance renewal hasn't gone through the roof. You don't need to tell them about points (or presumably bans), they get that info from some database. So they just came back to you with a quote for this year no questions asked?

Anyway what's done is done, but I can't see how there won't be some more repercussions (because of the insurance).

Perhaps I just haven't understood properly, not meant to be a pile on.

AccidentalCriminal · Yesterday 16:49

LavenderOregano · Yesterday 16:35

Once you update you docs with the DVLA they’re likely to chase you for the fine. It will be hefty as it’s been unpaid so long.

You might want to talk to a solicitor about how to regularise the position now without confessing to driving while banned. It’s an imprisonable offence so iI’d do whatever you can to avoid revealing this.

What was the date of the conviction? When was the speeding offence?

June 25

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AccidentalCriminal · Yesterday 16:49

Imlyingandthatsthetruth · Yesterday 16:41

Now I'm confused. Prior ban? So... You've had more than one? Regardless, I don't get how the insurance renewal hasn't gone through the roof. You don't need to tell them about points (or presumably bans), they get that info from some database. So they just came back to you with a quote for this year no questions asked?

Anyway what's done is done, but I can't see how there won't be some more repercussions (because of the insurance).

Perhaps I just haven't understood properly, not meant to be a pile on.

No I mean prior as in I'm not banned now but I disclosed that I have been.

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LavenderOregano · Yesterday 16:49

Is that the ban or the speeding offence?

AccidentalCriminal · Yesterday 16:51

The ban, I'm not sure when the speeding was as it's now dropped off my license along with the failure to disclose. I guess the ban cancelled the points?

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Felinesonmeshirt · Yesterday 16:53

AccidentalCriminal · Yesterday 16:29

I have no issues paying a fine- how will I know I owe it or where to pay it?

When was the offence?

Felinesonmeshirt · Yesterday 16:55

Sorry, I’ve just seen it’s over a year ago. Were you informed of the speeding offence by receipt of a NIP 172

LavenderOregano · Yesterday 16:56

The ban wipes out the points but not the record- check the website.

Very surprised to hear that this hasn’t affected your insurance premiums!

AccidentalCriminal · Yesterday 16:56

Felinesonmeshirt · Yesterday 16:55

Sorry, I’ve just seen it’s over a year ago. Were you informed of the speeding offence by receipt of a NIP 172

I assume so but it would have gone to my previous address.

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Felinesonmeshirt · Yesterday 16:57

No doubt it would have been returned to the police office as Gone Away. Forget it.

Felinesonmeshirt · Yesterday 16:59

LavenderOregano · Yesterday 16:35

Once you update you docs with the DVLA they’re likely to chase you for the fine. It will be hefty as it’s been unpaid so long.

You might want to talk to a solicitor about how to regularise the position now without confessing to driving while banned. It’s an imprisonable offence so iI’d do whatever you can to avoid revealing this.

What was the date of the conviction? When was the speeding offence?

They can’t. The NIP has to be received by the registered keeper within 14 days. OP didn’t receive anything. The police can’t go back over NIPS that were issued over a year ago.